Rules of science and technology.

[tatsuya1221]

A specific member has made this thread needed, as such here are the rules.

1.Don't flame, ever.

2.Respect others opinions, this forum is to discuss different ideas, views and tech, this is not a place of debate or who's right and who's wrong, it is specifically to discuss topics related to science and technology.
The only execption to this rule is if someone asks about a scientific theory,then unless you can help with the question, please don't post.

3.Don't spam, it will not be tolerated.

4.Again, respect others opinions, this is not a debate forum, if you want that go to gametrailers.com

#UPDATE#
- Do NOT post in threads that have been inactive for more than 4 months unless it's necessary

[goldenwingedship]

Yay for rules! :hand:

I always want to use that emoticon. It just always seems so out of place. Does it work here? I don't think so :(

[Stone Cold]

Ya know, Stone Cold know who you are talking about. And that person was not wrong, you were.

You closed the topics becasue that person didn't choose to belive your bull**** about being a 26000 yr old immortal and how you "know" the universe will end because you "know" how everything will end.

He voiced his scientifical theory and you voiced some video game garbage that can't be true no matter what. You're a terrible mod.

[GameGeeks]

Stone don't start a flame war. I think you're on your last ban.

[Stone Cold]

How is it flaming when Stone Cold states the obvious? In the nicest way possible, Tat is not an objective mod.

[tatsuya1221]

Ya know, Stone Cold know who you are talking about. And that person was not wrong, you were.

You closed the topics becasue that person didn't choose to belive your bull**** about being a 26000 yr old immortal and how you "know" the universe will end because you "know" how everything will end.

He voiced his scientifical theory and you voiced some video game garbage that can't be true no matter what. You're a terrible mod.

I think you misunderstand something, i didn't say he had to believe me, and i'm not trying to force him to, what i'm saying is do not try to force your views on others, period.


P.S., if you want me demodded, pm the admin and ask for it, preaching to the other members doesn't work.

[kaosdeity]

Good luck with that.

[Aravisian]

Good luck with that.

Are you saying that the Admin will not examine whether or not a mod is objective and well suited for the task- Instead choosing the emotional bond of friendship to override good reasoning and logic?
I think you misunderstand something, i didn't say he had to believe me, and i'm not trying to force him to, what i'm saying is do not try to force your views on others, period.
I'm glad to see that I am not the only member (tentatively) on this board that you are not fooling one bit, Tatsuya.
I never silenced anyone.

I did not insult the people I had responded to. Anymore than you insulted anyone you responded to when you told them how to properly execute the commands for the emulators.

I clarified what Scientific Theory actually states.

You seek to silence me, you use your moderator power to lock threads in order to silence my arguments and then you accuse me of the very behavior that you are the one actually exhibiting.

You have already been breaking the very rules you seek to impose.

You have flamed - A LOT.

You have thrown as many accusations at me as you possibly can without supporting any of those accusations.

And you completely and totally misunderstand something: My stating what Scientific theories actually state is not forcing anyone to believe anything.

Your propaganda against me is just a whole lotta words with no substance.

That thread- End of the Universe- the OP ASKED CLEARLY what Scientific THEORY says about the end of the Universe.
By your own rules, I was completely proper in addressing the questions.

How can people objectively discuss something if they misrepresent it?
How can you enforce a rule that says, "Don't ever tell anyone when they are wrong"?

The truth, Tatsuya, is that you don't want to be wrong.
You don't want me to demonstrate that you are wrong.
You are unwilling to admit to being wrong and you seek to throw as much insult and accusation at me as you can to cover for that.

Stone Cold is dead on about your moderatorship abilities.

You have been allowing your personal wants to interfere with your objectiveness. Just because you have friends in your clique on the forum backing you up no matter how wrong you are magically exhibiting proper behavior.

[GameGeeks]

No, he's saying there's no valid reasoning or logic in stripping tatsuya of his mod powers.

[Aravisian]

No, he's saying there's no valid reasoning or logic in stripping tatsuya of his mod powers.

Hard to say.
I'm not all for the Idea of demodding Tatsuya.

I'm all for the idea of trying to REACH Tatsuya and get him to recognize where he has been wrong as of late.

We all need room to learn and grow.

Is there valid Logic or reason?
I would say that emotionally reacting to posters, slandering them and then silencing them under the false accusation of attacks that that mod himself had been making- in hypocritical proportions- would most definitely qualify as valid reason and logic to question his objectiveness as a Mod.

Tatsuya has personal spiritual beliefs that he feels are threatened by Scientific thought.
As such, he lashes out at science, doing everything he can to detract from science and then attacks me harshly and silences me with thread locking for his OWN exhibited behavior that all can see for themselves.

My preference would be that Tatsuya examines his own behavior and learns and grows from it over stripping him of Moderatorship.
However, if he is unable to do that...

[GameGeeks]

Actualy he's been reacting to you the same way he has everyone else. Infact he's been very linient of you. I'd have just baned you for trolling by now.

[Aravisian]

Actualy he's been reacting to you the same way he has everyone else. Infact he's been very linient of you. I'd have just baned you for trolling by now.

So who bans the Mod for attacking people needlessly?
Does accusing someone of stuff they aren't guilty of a lot and attacking them a lot qualify as trolling?

[GameGeeks]

Considering I find you guilty, I don't see the problem.

[Aravisian]

Considering I find you guilty, I don't see the problem.

Well, I'm more than happy to listen if you can quote me directly and show me where I was guilty.

[GameGeeks]

I could but I'm ending this here. I will not be goaded into a flame war.

[tatsuya1221]

Well, I'm more than happy to listen if you can quote me directly and show me where I was guilty.

Your guilty right now of trying to start a flame war, stop, i won't say it again, also NEVER spam a rules topic, this is a general rule.


I'd like to point out something, i was made a GM because i'm like this, i/E i do everything by the book.

[tatsuya1221]

As it is too troublesome to send the admin a pm asking for the update (we really shouldn't have to even update it, we have a filter for a reason), i will state it here:

Do not bypass the cuss filter, this is to all members, while on the forums it is against the rules.

Also, yes, i intentionally double posted in this to make the point.

[axel1]

Stone don't start a flame war. I think you're on your last ban.

It was just an opinion on the debate... I don't understand how it warrants a ban other than it would offend Tatsuya...

[tatsuya1221]

It was just an opinion on the debate... I don't understand how it warrants a ban other than it would offend Tatsuya...

He said something in another thread a long time ago, also, your quoting a 2 month old post.

[axel1]

1.Don't flame, ever.

I see this being said here a lot, but does anyone actually understand what a flame even is :confused:



2.Respect others opinions, this forum is to discuss different ideas, views and tech, this is not a place of debate or who's right and who's wrong,

When two opposing views meet, it's inevitable. Friendly debating is how we progress in the modern world.

3.Don't spam, it will not be tolerated.

I don't see how this relates to this poster :confused:

4.Again, respect others opinions, this is not a debate forum, if you want that go to gametrailers.com

Well my opinion is that the sky is green, serial killers are saints and RPG games suck, god forbid you should oppose my opinions...

He said something in another thread a long time ago, also, your quoting a 2 month old post.

My bad, I don't check the posting date.

[GameGeeks]

Axe, please drop it. You're spamming.

[tatsuya1221]

I see this being said here a lot, but does anyone actually understand what a flame even is :confused:





When two opposing views meet, it's inevitable. Friendly debating is how we progress in the modern world.



I don't see how this relates to this poster :confused:



Well my opinion is that the sky is green, serial killers are saints and RPG games suck, god forbid you should oppose my opinions...



My bad, I don't check the posting date.

1.A flame by the site's definition is causing problems to the other members, as well as insulting someones views.
It is one thing to have a view, it's another thing to try to insult someone because their view isn't kosher with yours.

2.As i said, this isn't a debate forum, as long as your not trying to change someone's opinion though, it's fine to discuss.

3.This is a general rule of coolrom, it is always to stand.

4.Don't mock the rules.
It's not about opposition, it's about respect of others,

[Aravisian]

1.A flame by the site's definition is causing problems to the other members, as well as insulting someones views.
It is one thing to have a view, it's another thing to try to insult someone because their view isn't kosher with yours.

2.As i said, this isn't a debate forum, as long as your not trying to change someone's opinion though, it's fine to discuss.

3.This is a general rule of coolrom, it is always to stand.

4.Don't mock the rules.
It's not about opposition, it's about respect of others,

i.e. - Don't correct others mistakes, misinterpretations, misconceptions or otherwise speak against a belief they might hold.

So um.... Just curious...

What separates "opinion" from fact, theory or fallacy?

You're trying to use the rules as a means to validate your own behavior and beliefs, Tatsuya... and it seems another member here has noticed this (Not the first to notice, though, from what I hear in other conversations) and is also questioning it.

[tatsuya1221]

i.e. - Don't correct others mistakes, misinterpretations, misconceptions or otherwise speak against a belief they might hold.

So um.... Just curious...

What separates "opinion" from fact, theory or fallacy?

You're trying to use the rules as a means to validate your own behavior and beliefs, Tatsuya... and it seems another member here has noticed this (Not the first to notice, though, from what I hear in other conversations) and is also questioning it.

Nice job throwing in an insult with that post.

Mistakes are one thing, but not all things that go into theology are automatically fact just because you think they are, you have no right to push your views as fact more than i do, and i have to this day never once forced my views on any members.

GG, klen and viney are atheists, however i get along fine with them, why is that?
Because we respect each others views.

As i said, if you want me fired, take it up with the admin, but don't expect me to move a inch on the rules.

[Aravisian]

Nice job throwing in an insult with that post.

Mistakes are one thing, but not all things that go into theology are automatically fact just because you think they are, you have no right to push your views as fact more than i do, and i have to this day never once forced my views on any members.

GG, klen and viney are atheists, however i get along fine with them, why is that?
Because we respect each others views.

As i said, if you want me fired, take it up with the admin, but don't expect me to move a inch on the rules.

When discussing SCIENCE and Not THEOLOGY, views and opinions are irrelevant, mostly.
That's the issue.

This resurrection of the argument refers to my having clearly stated what scientific theory states. You opposed what scientific theory states, flamed me, then warned me as a mod.

It doesn't HAVE to mean you get removed as Mod, Tatsuya.
Maybe some of us don't dislike you and hope to REACH you so that you Understand. It's not about knocking you down or saying you need to leave your position. It's about helping you to work in your position better.

Is it unthinkable, Tatsuya, that you may be in error yourself here?

[GameGeeks]

Science is made up of ideas and opinions. Theories are nothing but opinions. So saying that opinions in debate don't matter is a weak argument.

[Aravisian]

Science is made up of ideas and opinions. Theories are nothing but opinions. So saying that opinions in debate don't matter is a weak argument.

What you just said is not an Opinion.

What you just said is a misconception. To put it more bluntly... You're incorrect.

Science is not made up of opinions and you clearly have no idea what a theory is.

A theory is the result of a Tested Hypothesis.
A theory is spawned AFTER someone makes a guess, then tests and makes observations. By your standard, most theories would be considered PROVEN. However, to a scientist, it is not. Because proofs only exist in mathematics. Nothing in science is ever PROVEN> Ever.

This is the way it is. If you do not understand what a theory is, that is not my or anyone elses responsibility- it is yours to learn and increase your understanding.

Additionally, If science was all "opinions" then your computer would not work. None of the technology you love to luxuriously use and take for granted would work.
We would Never have walked on the Moon.
There would be No GPS, Cell phones, ipods or all the other things that do not operate by Magic.
http://xkcd.com/54/

[Ryu]

What you just said is not an Opinion.

What you just said is a misconception. To put it more bluntly... You're incorrect.

Science is not made up of opinions and you clearly have no idea what a theory is.

A theory is the result of a Tested Hypothesis.
A theory is spawned AFTER someone makes a guess, then tests and makes observations. By your standard, most theories would be considered PROVEN. However, to a scientist, it is not. Because proofs only exist in mathematics. Nothing in science is ever PROVEN> Ever.

This is the way it is. If you do not understand what a theory is, that is not my or anyone elses responsibility- it is yours to learn and increase your understanding.

Additionally, If science was all "opinions" then your computer would not work. None of the technology you love to luxuriously use and take for granted would work.
We would Never have walked on the Moon.
There would be No GPS, Cell phones, ipods or all the other things that do not operate by Magic.
http://xkcd.com/54/
Dude, seriously, what are you doing on a gaming site?

[tatsuya1221]

When discussing SCIENCE and Not THEOLOGY, views and opinions are irrelevant, mostly.
That's the issue.

This resurrection of the argument refers to my having clearly stated what scientific theory states. You opposed what scientific theory states, flamed me, then warned me as a mod.

It doesn't HAVE to mean you get removed as Mod, Tatsuya.
Maybe some of us don't dislike you and hope to REACH you so that you Understand. It's not about knocking you down or saying you need to leave your position. It's about helping you to work in your position better.

Is it unthinkable, Tatsuya, that you may be in error yourself here?

You cannot be right in this, since your argument is that science is perfect, when even science says there is debate open for everything.

Opinion, views and feelings about topics are what has pushed science forward, what you speak of is no different that a theologitical view that it is infallible.

Anyway i'm locking this, as you obviously have ignored the don't spam the rules topic rule.