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pizzaman
05-13-2006, 05:26 PM
How can I copy-protect, or put up some sort of block on a disk?

Iconoclast
05-13-2006, 05:28 PM
How can I copy-protect, or put up some sort of block on a disk?With floppy disks, you can only write-protect them. I can tell you how to do that if that's what you mean. Only certain USB disks can be copy-protected. The one I used to have didn't have this feature, so I can't help you there. There should be a trigger somewhere, one that may not be too conspicuous.

pizzaman
05-13-2006, 05:34 PM
With floppy disks, you can only write-protect them. I can tell you how to do that if that's what you mean. Only certain USB disks can be copy-protected. The one I used to have didn't have this feature, so I can't help you there. There should be a trigger somewhere, one that may not be too conspicuous.
I was talking about DVD disks. If there isn't any way, could you explain how to do it with a floppy disk?

Iconoclast
05-13-2006, 05:38 PM
I don't know about DVD disks. I doubt Microsoft would even want to enable that. CDs are critical for installing software on peoples' PCs, and should not by copy-protected.

http://www.seleneinformatica.it/catalog/images/floppy-disk.jpg

In this picture of a floppy disk, look at the bottom-right. See that hole? On the back side of a floppy disk, there should be a hard-to-see trigger that will close the opening. This write-protects the disk.

pizzaman
05-13-2006, 05:40 PM
I don't know about DVD disks. I doubt Microsoft would even want to enable that. CDs are critical for installing software on peoples' PCs, and should not by copy-protected.

http://www.seleneinformatica.it/catalog/images/floppy-disk.jpg

In this picture of a floppy disk, look at the bottom-right. See that hole? On the back side of a floppy disk, there should be a hard-to-see trigger that will close the opening. This write-protects the disk.
That's awesome. Thanks, I'll try that. :D

pizzaman
05-14-2006, 01:09 AM
I just remembered to say, that is not what I meant. I wanted to know if you could make it, somehow, so that no one can copy your CD, or DVD? Meaning like a PS2 game, or something of the sort. I know there is always a way to copy disks, but at least I can protect it a little.

chaos master
05-14-2006, 01:28 AM
Iconoclast, how is that going to help from write protecting the floppy at all when the gigantic lock switch is huge? It easy to see, so what gives?

Also, I have a memory stick and it has a tiny little lock switch on it. I find it amusing how they can cram 512MB of space in there and have accompanyment with a physical lock switch. They are amazing.

Iconoclast
05-14-2006, 01:35 AM
Iconoclast, how is that going to help from write protecting the floppy at all when the gigantic lock switch is huge? It easy to see, so what gives?

Also, I have a memory stick and it has a tiny little lock switch on it. I find it amusing how they can cram 512MB of space in there and have accompanyment with a physical lock switch. They are amazing.It is not easy to see...except on rare floppy disks that aren't black. It's called 'camoflauge', and it's on the back. Besides, absolutely no one knows about it at my school except for a few major students and computers teachers. You'd be surprised it seems at how many people who don't know about it. It is NOT gigantic! Stop trying to...you know what you're trying to do!

On your memory stick, the lock switch is easier to see because it probably slightly sticks out on the side or something. It may feel like a bump to someone when they touch that side. I wish I had one of those, though. Floppy disks, however, are perfectly flat. They won't guess or even see the switch on the back. I have seen memory sticks with 11 GB of disk space. They cost well over $1,000. Can get a hard drive with 50 GB of disk space for cheaper than that.

pizzaman
05-14-2006, 02:04 AM
Do you guys inderstand what I mean though?

Iconoclast
05-14-2006, 02:09 AM
I don't know how to protect DVDs from having data copied of it, and I don't think Microsoft would enable such a bizzare thing.

pizzaman
05-14-2006, 02:13 AM
I don't know how to protect DVDs from having data copied of it, and I don't think Microsoft would enable such a bizzare thing.
Well if you see, I have lots of shcemes, and I have one that is terrific! I do not want to have people copy it though, as they might spread it around.

chaos master
05-14-2006, 02:15 AM
It is not easy to see...except on rare floppy disks that aren't black. It's called 'camoflauge', and it's on the back. Besides, absolutely no one knows about it at my school except for a few major students and computers teachers. You'd be surprised it seems at how many people who don't know about it. It is NOT gigantic! Stop trying to...you know what you're trying to do!

On your memory stick, the lock switch is easier to see because it probably slightly sticks out on the side or something. It may feel like a bump to someone when they touch that side. I wish I had one of those, though. Floppy disks, however, are perfectly flat. They won't guess or even see the switch on the back. I have seen memory sticks with 11 GB of disk space. They cost well over $1,000. Can get a hard drive with 50 GB of disk space for cheaper than that.

Ok, but ANYONE who has EVER used a floppy disk knows there is a lock switch somewhee, so anyone who would want to undo it could because those people would know about these simple things.

No, the lock switch does not stick out. It is a grey button that is in an indentation that is really easy to see.

Iconoclast
05-14-2006, 02:21 AM
Ok, but ANYONE who has EVER used a floppy disk knows there is a lock switch somewhee, so anyone who would want to undo it could because those people would know about these simple things.

No, the lock switch does not stick out. It is a grey button that is in an indentation that is really easy to see.No. No child who uses floppy disks, or even teenager, knows about the write protection. It is not something you can just find out for yourself. For example, I don't know what the bottom of a turtle looks like...well, maybe I do. That was a bad example.

pizzaman
05-14-2006, 02:23 AM
No. No child who uses floppy disks, or even teenager, knows about the write protection. It is not something you can just find out for yourself. For example, I don't know what the bottom of a turtle looks like...well, maybe I do. That was a bad example.
Lol, you seem to be making a lot of jokes today Iconoclast.

DarthBrady
05-14-2006, 01:17 PM
Check this out. Its instructions for doing what i think you're trying to accomplish

Here is the Link:

http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=946

pizzaman
05-14-2006, 01:37 PM
Check this out. Its instructions for doing what i think you're trying to accomplish

Here is the Link:

http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=946
Ok, thanks, I'll try it out. :D

DarthBrady
05-14-2006, 02:00 PM
no prob, always glad to help.

chaos master
05-14-2006, 03:45 PM
No. No child who uses floppy disks, or even teenager, knows about the write protection. It is not something you can just find out for yourself. For example, I don't know what the bottom of a turtle looks like...well, maybe I do. That was a bad example.

I know about them. Anyone who knows about the switch can write to any floppy in the world. It is really bad security. The first time I saw a floppy, I saw the write protect switch. Also, if you have ever bought a floppy, the box or manual will tell you about the switch. Once you know, all floppies can be written to. The switch is common knowledge.

Iconoclast
05-14-2006, 04:15 PM
I know about them. Anyone who knows about the switch can write to any floppy in the world. It is really bad security. The first time I saw a floppy, I saw the write protect switch. Also, if you have ever bought a floppy, the box or manual will tell you about the switch. Once you know, all floppies can be written to. The switch is common knowledge.Who the hell looks at the instructions? Everyone thinks they know everything about using floppy disks. It is not that easy to find out for yourself. As I said, no teenager would know about it. You may have read the instructions, but that's probably just becausey your Italian. The write protection is for fools who like to delete things on the disk. Such fools wouldn't know about the write protection. And what's more: They should be smart enough to break the damn thing in half! See Microsoft install security software for that. But you may have a point....

DarthBrady
05-14-2006, 05:45 PM
there is no real Hardware based copy protection for floppy disks, because all you have to do is crack the disk open and get the magnetic film disk out of the center and put in another floppy disk case and it will work. software copy protection on them is a different story.

jambog
05-14-2006, 08:42 PM
Copy protecting DVDs is pointless, there is always a way around it. What are you trying to protect? If its just data then I would recommend using a program to encrypt it with a password so that only you and whoever else you give the password to can access it. You can add a password to the data using 7z or a program called Handybits Crypto http://www.handybits.com/easycrypto.htm

chaos master
05-14-2006, 09:24 PM
Copy protecting DVDs is pointless, there is always a way around it. What are you trying to protect? If its just data then I would recommend using a program to encrypt it with a password so that only you and whoever else you give the password to can access it. You can add a password to the data using 7z or a program called Handybits Crypto http://www.handybits.com/easycrypto.htm

You can also use WinRAR to add a password.

pizzaman
05-14-2006, 11:35 PM
Who the hell looks at the instructions? Everyone thinks they know everything about using floppy disks. It is not that easy to find out for yourself. As I said, no teenager would know about it. You may have read the instructions, but that's probably just becausey your Italian. The write protection is for fools who like to delete things on the disk. Such fools wouldn't know about the write protection. And what's more: They should be smart enough to break the damn thing in half! See Microsoft install security software for that. But you may have a point....
Lol, I'm nothing like that. I just rush through the whole thing really fast. I might read the instructions later though.

pizzaman
05-14-2006, 11:39 PM
Copy protecting DVDs is pointless, there is always a way around it. What are you trying to protect? If its just data then I would recommend using a program to encrypt it with a password so that only you and whoever else you give the password to can access it. You can add a password to the data using 7z or a program called Handybits Crypto http://www.handybits.com/easycrypto.htm
I know that it will be a way around it, but everybody in my school have 2.0's. Some don't even know what "Microsoft Excel" is. I just one someone to use the disk, but not copy it. I know that there is always a backdoor, or a crack in the system, but these people will not find it.

pizzaman
05-14-2006, 11:40 PM
You can also use WinRAR to add a password.
I can't do that, I want them to use the CD/DVD as much as they want, as long as they don't copy it.

Iconoclast
05-15-2006, 06:12 AM
I can't do that, I want them to use the CD/DVD as much as they want, as long as they don't copy it.But chaos master has a point: When you add a password to a ZIP or RAR archive file, you cannot copy or delete files. This is a simple solution, and it compresses its contents.

chaos master
05-15-2006, 02:04 PM
Lol, I'm nothing like that. I just rush through the whole thing really fast. I might read the instructions later though.

1. I NEVER read the instructions. When I get a new game, I just figure the controls and stuff out by myself and reserve the manual (me like the ones with pretty pictures and many pages and color, not the cheap, black-and-white, 10 page ones) for later reading.

Interesting fact: Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2 have the largest manuals I have seen. SA has about 40 pages and SA2 has about 60 pages.

2. Iconoclast says I have a point! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!

pizzaman
05-15-2006, 07:14 PM
But chaos master has a point: When you add a password to a ZIP or RAR archive file, you cannot copy or delete files. This is a simple solution, and it compresses its contents.
But if it compresses it, then they can't use it. Correct me if I'm wrong though, I might have not understood.

Iconoclast
05-15-2006, 07:23 PM
But if it compresses it, then they can't use it. Correct me if I'm wrong though, I might have not understood.They CAN use it. They can open compressed ZIP archives like regular folders. But they need to have WinRAR if they are RAR archives. However, if you open a file from an archive, ZIP or RAR, they cannot access other files within the archive.

...Or, chaos master, do you know if you can open password-protected files?

pizzaman
05-15-2006, 07:27 PM
They CAN use it. They can open compressed ZIP archives like regular folders. But they need to have WinRAR if they are RAR archives. However, if you open a file from an archive, ZIP or RAR, they cannot access other files within the archive.

...Or, chaos master, do you know if you can open password-protected files?
So if I set a password on a file that contains several folders, will those folders, and their contents, be accessable? And non-copyable?

Iconoclast
05-15-2006, 07:31 PM
CM, that point was shot right back at you. You were creative to come up with that idea, but it seems we both forgot that you can't even read password-protected files.

Pizzaman, I know enough about comptuer science to look into the binary code and tell what your archive password is, anyway, so I hope you weren't planning on sending us anything! JK, I know you weren't. I am psychic.

pizzaman
05-15-2006, 07:33 PM
CM, that point was shot right back at you. You were creative to come up with that idea, but it seems we both forgot that you can't even read password-protected files.

Pizzaman, I know enough about comptuer science to look into the binary code and tell what your archive password is, anyway, so I hope you weren't planning on sending us anything! JK, I know you weren't. I am psychic.
No lol, I don't mind if you guys copy anything that is mine. I just don't want people around here, for my own reasons. I know what I've been saying sounds really stupid and doesn't make sense, but it's a secret. And I never tell secrets.

DarthBrady
05-15-2006, 08:08 PM
All I know is that I look at this way:

Disk/Film/Game/Software manufactures have spent BILLIONS pumping up these companies like Macrovision , BASF, and SonyCP group; to name a few, so they could constantly strive to make newer harder protection, .....

But just about every single effing' bit of it made ever has been cracked/hacked/Ripped~ whatever you wanna call it. so WTF?

So whatever little trick you wanna try, i'll bet there is some way of copying it or some other weird forum somewhere(that would suck because it isnt coolROM ;) )
where someone can tell ya how to do it. You just gotta figure some other tricky way of kepping whatever it is YOURS:devil:

pizzaman
05-15-2006, 08:21 PM
I know that there is always a way, but people in my school are really stupid. Mostly all of them don't even know what a forum is, so I doubt they can find a way to copy anything.

chaos master
05-15-2006, 08:39 PM
CM, that point was shot right back at you. You were creative to come up with that idea, but it seems we both forgot that you can't even read password-protected files.

Pizzaman, I know enough about comptuer science to look into the binary code and tell what your archive password is, anyway, so I hope you weren't planning on sending us anything! JK, I know you weren't. I am psychic.
Today 09:27 PM


As soon as pizzaman said this, I no longer backed my point. It was not shot back at me. Why are you dissing what I say? I can do without the attitude.
I can't do that, I want them to use the CD/DVD as much as they want, as long as they don't copy it.

OMG! Pleeeeeeeease tell me how you can find out the password! It is for your own benefit when some guy traps you in an archive and I have to crack the password and let you out.

...I AM PSYCHO!!
But seriously, there have been many occasions when I have forseen things. I have thought about songs right before they came on the radio and I have thought about phrases right before someone said them. It happens often, so it might not be a coincedence... Iconoclast, does this happen to you?

pizzaman
05-15-2006, 08:42 PM
Silly geece, I'm a real physic, I can guess what you are doing right now... let me consentrate... you are staring into the computer screen reading this message. Man! I didn't know I was that good.

Iconoclast
05-15-2006, 09:03 PM
As soon as pizzaman said this, I no longer backed my point. It was not shot back at me. Why are you dissing what I say? I can do without the attitude.

OMG! Pleeeeeeeease tell me how you can find out the password! It is for your own benefit when some guy traps you in an archive and I have to crack the password and let you out.

...I AM PSYCHO!!
But seriously, there have been many occasions when I have forseen things. I have thought about songs right before they came on the radio and I have thought about phrases right before someone said them. It happens often, so it might not be a coincedence... Iconoclast, does this happen to you?

I am not dissing you. You are oversensitive to disrespect like my dad. It is the way us Earthlings talk, so I suggest you live with it.

I have seen some very...VERY coincidental unconventional things, but not that. I don't listen to the radio.

I am not telling you anything about cracking passwords, because it is hard to learn. To prove that you have the capacity to learn, show me that you have mastered what I have said in the 'About Binary' thread. In fact...it sort of explains a hint as to how to hack passwords...I think that will halfway satisfy you. Return to me with proof that you've mastered that, and I will stress the areas of hacking passwords to you. It is hard to teach, so to be fair, you must learn what is hard to learn.

psilonaut
06-04-2006, 04:21 PM
No. No child who uses floppy disks, or even teenager, knows about the write protection. It is not something you can just find out for yourself. For example, I don't know what the bottom of a turtle looks like...well, maybe I do. That was a bad example.

Man... It's a floppy, the very first thing I did when I picked up a floppy disk back when I was maybe 6 or 7 was to play with the write protect toggle. It's printed right one the disk "Write Protect"!

And that does nothing to prevent you from copying off of the disk.

psilonaut
06-04-2006, 04:25 PM
In regard to the whole copy protecting your own DVD. It all depends on what you're puting on there. But chances are, unless you have access to some professional CD stamping tools you won't be able to accomplish this.

You can put a password lock on some files if you wanted to. But then nobody will be able to access the files but yourself.

pizzaman
06-04-2006, 11:58 PM
In regard to the whole copy protecting your own DVD. It all depends on what you're puting on there. But chances are, unless you have access to some professional CD stamping tools you won't be able to accomplish this.

You can put a password lock on some files if you wanted to. But then nobody will be able to access the files but yourself.
I have found some programs that do it with CDs, so I'm happy for now. It protects the CD from people who want to get its RAW ISO. I haven't tried it yet though.

I still need to get a hold of a DVD-prtecting app. That would be stupendous! :D If I find one I'll post it. I'll also post that CD-protecting app.