Graphene

[GameGeeks]

The material is one atom thick and yet it's stronger then dimond and is flexible. The uses something like this has are numerous. It could one day replace silicon chips due to the rate it conducts electricity.

Article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090708/sc_mcclatchy/3268145)

[goldenwingedship]

The material is one atom thick and yet it's stronger then dimond and is flexible. The uses something like this has are numerous. It could one day replace silicon chips due to the rate it conducts electricity.

Article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090708/sc_mcclatchy/3268145)

Very interesting. Kinda strange that they introduce in a way that makes it sound like it was just discovered, when really it was discovered five years ago.

Cool though. I want some.

[GameGeeks]

Very interesting. Kinda strange that they introduce in a way that makes it sound like it was just discovered, when really it was discovered five years ago.

Cool though. I want some.

I didn't know that. That was the first I heard of it.

[goldenwingedship]

I didn't know that either. But they mention it in the article :p

[GameGeeks]

It was late so sue me.

[tatsuya1221]

Still not the strongest substance ever made, that belongs to mithril and altemana.

[goldenwingedship]

Ooh, I've heard of mithril. It's real? What is altemana?

[GameGeeks]

Yeah, but those weigh alot and resist movement.

[goldenwingedship]

Yeah, but those weigh alot and resist movement.

Aww, now I feel dumb that I don't know anything about them xD

[GameGeeks]

Shhh, I'm trying to look smart. Plus, I figured they where both metals and metals don't like to bend.

[Aravisian]

Shhh, I'm trying to look smart.

You succeeded.
After-all, a Buster Sword can be made out of Mythril.;)

[tatsuya1221]

Ooh, I've heard of mithril. It's real? What is altemana?

Mithril is a legendary metal lost to time, altemana is a name for a natural substance similar to gemstone, it is also known as orithicalum, the metal of atlantis, though it isn't well known if it's really from there are not, it's classified as a metal, but is more like gemstone.

Both of these are legendary minerals, but science doesn't say they don't exist, simply, they can't reproduce them.

I can't remember where, but there is supposedly some mythril in europe in extremely small amounts.

[Aravisian]

Mithril is a legendary metal lost to time, altemana is a name for a natural substance similar to gemstone, it is also known as orithicalum, the metal of atlantis, though it isn't well known if it's really from there are not, it's classified as a metal, but is more like gemstone.

Both of these are legendary minerals, but science doesn't say they don't exist, simply, they can't reproduce them.

I can't remember where, but there is supposedly some mythril in europe in extremely small amounts.

Can they be found on the periodic table of elements?

If not, that may explain where the "myth" in "mythril" comes from, don't you think?

[goldenwingedship]

Can they be found on the periodic table of elements?

If not, that may explain where the "myth" in "mythril" comes from, don't you think?

According the J.R.R. Tolkien, the "mith" part means grey.

[tatsuya1221]

Can they be found on the periodic table of elements?

If not, that may explain where the "myth" in "mythril" comes from, don't you think?
You know, just because you don't see it doesn't make it fake, stop being a jerk, i doubt i'm the only one who's getting irritated by it.
According the J.R.R. Tolkien, the "mith" part means grey.

And he'd be right, though the word myth might also originate with mythril.

[GameGeeks]

Can they be found on the periodic table of elements?

If not, that may explain where the "myth" in "mythril" comes from, don't you think?

There's alot of stuff not on the pariodic table. If they're still studying it and there's but a few grams of it then it might be a while before it is even considered for the table. And be nicer with your posts.

EDIT: Damn, tatsuya beat me to the last part.

[Aravisian]

You know, just because you don't see it doesn't make it fake, stop being a jerk, i doubt i'm the only one who's getting irritated by it.

It's not a matter of not seeing it.
Unless you can demonstrate that this fictitious metal falls IN BETWEEN the atom structure...

And don't you ever call me a jerk again for discussing something in an appropriate manner. The Periodic table of elements is solid. Your myth is not.
That is not my fault.

Such an unwarranted attack from one who is supposed to be a MODERATOR is very unbecoming.

There's alot of stuff not on the pariodic table. If they're still studying it and there's but a few grams of it then it might be a while before it is even considered for the table. And be nicer with your posts.

EDIT: Damn, tatsuya beat me to the last part.

I was Nice. Explain how I was NOT nice until someone called me a Jerk.

The periodic table covers the natural elements. The ones after Uranium are Extremely Unstable. Even if Mythril existed out there, it couldn't exist for mere nano seconds.

THAT is SCIENCE and This IS a Science section.

You two are now the ones trying to pick a fight with me
and calling someone a jerk counts as flaming.

[GameGeeks]

Then, be nicer with your posts. We have warned and banned you before for this reason.

As for your statement about demenstration, can you demestrate that it's not there?

[tatsuya1221]

It's not a matter of not seeing it.
Unless you can demonstrate that this fictitious metal falls IN BETWEEN the atom structure...

And don't you ever call me a jerk again for discussing something in an appropriate manner. The Periodic table of elements is solid. Your myth is not.
That is not my fault.

Such an unwarranted attack from one who is supposed to be a MODERATOR is very unbecoming.

Read the rules, the rules have a term that is called "jerk", if i wanted to attack you i'd call you something else that i won't bring to the table.

Your doing the same thing you got banned the last time for again, trying to make your word law, it won't happen because of one thing:this is a discussion board, not a ____ you board.

[Aravisian]

Then, be nicer with your posts. We have warned and banned you before for this reason.
I was nice. Demonstarte in a reasonable manner how I was not nice.
I asked if it was available on the periodic table.
That's a very simple and straight forward question.

You two are completely painting a false image of me, in spite of how you think you can get away with being not nice whenever you want.

Stop it.


As for your statement about demenstration, can you demestrate that it's not there?
No problem.

Noting atomic structure, order and properties, show me "Mythril" on this chart:
http://www.corrosionsource.com/handbook/periodic/periodic_table.gif

[goldenwingedship]

Who said that these items had to appear on the periodic table of elements? Maybe they aren't elements. Maybe they are a combination of elements. Which, in that case they wouldn't be on there in the first place.

And you do have a really rude way of posting. I'm not trying to sound biased or anything. But you always seem so arrogant. I generally try to avoid the threads you post in, Aravisian. But I am enjoying the topic so I refuse to leave because I don't enjoy your company.

[GameGeeks]

Just because you can post a chart doesn't mean it has all the elements on it. Pulling up random facts or charts to prove your point doesn't always work since science doesn't have all the answers and we're still learning everyday. It constantly changes form. Trying to force your opinion is what's getting you into trouble.

[Aravisian]

Your doing the same thing you got banned the last time for again, trying to make your word law, it won't happen because of one thing:this is a discussion board, not a ____ you board.

I am discussing sound science.
You dislike science as you repeatedly make apparent.

Stop threatening me simply because you are strongly biased against reasonable scientific discussion.


I am not presenting opinions or laws.

I am presenting the facts and just because you dislike the facts does not give you the right to falsely accuse me and threaten me.

You both need to stop trying to pick a fight with me every chance you get.


If you want to say Mythril exists- that's fine. But by making that claim, it is Your responsibility to provide evidence that it exists.

[Ryu]

Still not the strongest substance ever made, that belongs to mithril and altemana.
I think Wolverine wouldn't agree with you there.:D

[GameGeeks]

Arvasian, I don't think it's the mods that have to problem. We're all mods here and we have a problem with the way you're posting. So the fault does indeed lie on your shoulders.

[Aravisian]

Who said that these items had to appear on the periodic table of elements? Maybe they aren't elements. Maybe they are a combination of elements. Which, in that case they wouldn't be on there in the first place.
This is an Excellent point.
I stand corrected.

[Ryu]

I don't see Graphene in that periodic table. It must not exist.

[Aravisian]

I don't see Graphene in that periodic table. It must not exist.

As I bowed to Goldenwingship above, i was soundly corrected.

however, Graphene is there- of sort- Carbon.;)

[goldenwingedship]

I'm glad this is settled.

[Ryu]

As I bowed to Goldenwingship above, i was soundly corrected.

however, Graphene is there- of sort- Carbon.;)
How can a form of carbon conduct electricity that fast?

[Aravisian]

I'm glad this is settled.

yeah, it was that easy. I feel foolish now because your response was so obvious.
<blush>
Arvasian, I don't think it's the mods that have to problem. We're all mods here and we have a problem with the way you're posting. So the fault does indeed lie on your shoulders.

I quite strongly disagree Mod.

All I did was ask him about the PT of E.
He could have appropriate responded or even offered the option that Goldenwingship offered instead of resorting to Ad Hom attack and anger.

I say that it was the Mod who was out of line by jumping the gun and calling me a jerk when the accusation was not called for.

[deadly_-_dreamerX]

The missing element?

All I see is 4 empty boxes in the p-block sect.
Not in the other f, s, d-block sect.

In the 7th peroid, group 13, 15, 17 and 18.

[tatsuya1221]

Who said that these items had to appear on the periodic table of elements? Maybe they aren't elements. Maybe they are a combination of elements. Which, in that case they wouldn't be on there in the first place.

And you do have a really rude way of posting. I'm not trying to sound biased or anything. But you always seem so arrogant. I generally try to avoid the threads you post in, Aravisian. But I am enjoying the topic so I refuse to leave because I don't enjoy your company.
it's actually believed to be a mixture of platinum and 2 active minerals, most who adhere to this believe that one of them was mercury, the other one could be anything.
I think Wolverine wouldn't agree with you there.:D
Adamant, which was called adamantium is actually just another name for mythril.

[Aravisian]

it's actually believed to be a mixture of platinum and 2 active minerals, most who adhere to this believe that one of them was mercury, the other one could be anything.

Adamant, which was called adamantium is actually just another name for mythril.

Thanks to an almost jarring realization providing the obvious, I see that I can apologize to you for misunderstanding your claim.

So you are saying that mythril is not a metal- it's an Alloy.

In which case the metal is not lost- the formula to making it is?

[Ryu]

Adamant, which was called adamantium is actually just another name for mythril.
Cool! Didn't know that.:D

[tatsuya1221]

Thanks to an almost jarring realization providing the obvious, I see that I can apologize to you for misunderstanding your claim.

So you are saying that mythril is not a metal- it's an Alloy.

In which case the metal is not lost- the formula to making it is?

A little of both, depending on the origin story it was a gift from god, something that mixed when a alchemist was searching for the gold recipe, or naturally occured when a series of events that sound more like a game of mouse trap.


Basically, the alloy was lost because it was only known to a very few, who kept it a family secret.

EDIT:i meant group secret.

[Aravisian]

A little of both, depending on the origin story it was a gift from god, something that mixed when a alchemist was searching for the gold recipe, or naturally occured when a series of events that sound more like a game of mouse trap.


Basically, the alloy was lost because it was only known to a very few, who kept it a family secret.

EDIT:i meant group secret.

Oh, so it's like the recipe for Dr. Pepper, then.

[tatsuya1221]

Oh, so it's like the recipe for Dr. Pepper, then.

Well we do know it existed, as there were battles fought over it.

What we don't know is if it has been synthisized yet.
However it's supposed to be harder than diamond, have absolute heat resistance (i/e cannot be melted), and never loses it's edge.

That would make it harder and stronger than anything made today if it's true, and for the most part, noone knows one way or another if it is.

[Aravisian]

Well we do know it existed, as there were battles fought over it.

What we don't know is if it has been synthisized yet.
However it's supposed to be harder than diamond, have absolute heat resistance (i/e cannot be melted), and never loses it's edge.

That would make it harder and stronger than anything made today if it's true, and for the most part, noone knows one way or another if it is.

Just because battles have been fought over it is not strong evidence that it actually exists, it is evidence that those that fought for it believed that it existed.

however, I would be interested if you can provide citations for these battles.

[tatsuya1221]

Just because battles have been fought over it is not strong evidence that it actually exists, it is evidence that those that fought for it believed that it existed.

however, I would be interested if you can provide citations for these battles.

I'll see if i can find some links, i read that in a encyclopeedia a few years ago.

Also fyi, the guy who wrote the wikipedia article on it was an idiot, he claims j.r. tolken invented it, when tolken got it from the excalibur legend.

Oh, one last thing, most scientists believe titainium is what mythril was, since it has most of the properties.

[Aravisian]

I'll see if i can find some links, i read that in a encyclopeedia a few years ago.
Yeah, I get that problem a lot. I will have read about something in a book, which doesn't enable me to have quick cites to link for a claim I made.
Which then requires me to research it...

So I can look up this one too while waiting. I think it would be an interesting read.


Also fyi, the guy who wrote the wikipedia article on it was an idiot, he claims j.r. tolken invented it, when tolken got it from the excalibur legend.
Wiki is peer review...kinda;)

Oh, one last thing, most scientists believe titainium is what mythril was, since it has most of the properties.

This is an interesting proposition, but it may also mean that Mythril has a modern formula, after-all.
Kinda detracts from the romance of it but... It would be intriguing to think that Titanium had been forged so long ago.

One of the many things that makes me *(*$# over the loss of the Library of Alexandria.

[deadly_-_dreamerX]

Metal alloy...
Then what about Metaloid alloy?
Isn't there something like that.

[Aravisian]

Metal alloy...
Then what about Metaloid alloy?
Isn't there something like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalloid

[deadly_-_dreamerX]

I know why people often uses silicon boards. But metalloids alloy. Isn't there one. Hmm... gota study it, might prove usefull at school.

[Sargoth]

How can a form of carbon conduct electricity that fast?

So many properties change the rate of conduction it really isn't hard to think that carbon can be used that way.

Hell, temperature alone can drastically change conductivity.

[bhabykoh]

sana mkita ko ung mga threads

[housefull]

I didn't know that either. But they mention it in the article