Sony March 15th Conference

[blue]

So a Sony conference happened yesterday, and some news were announced.
-PS3 is gonna have a worldwide lauch in November
-a 60gb hdd might come bundled with the system
-all games are coming out on blu-ray
-free basic online gaming service
-PS3 will come equipped with HMDI 1.3 ports

as well, the reason for the delay was announced: as everyone already knows, its because of the Blu-ray copy protection issues.

from what I've seen, there aren't many sony fans here, but what do you guys think? any opinions at all about the conference that happened yesterday?

[Iceman]

Nice seems like a good system, Am a fan of all systems
So what does this blue-ray thing do exactly?

[blue]

blu-ray is a next generation disc that can hold up to 25GB per disc, allowing for more files per disc; meaning better graphics and longer and bigger games.

[Iceman]

Wow sounds like a good idea, can't wait to get my hands on that!

[drath420]

I know wut u saying wit the way the 360 has been doing an only a couple of games worth getting i might end up going bvack to sony i have one quick ? tho will u still be able to play all the older sony games ps1 and ps2

[blue]

yeah ps3 is backwards compatible. :)

[Iceman]

Damn that's a nice feature too have, I wonder if the Revolution will also have that ability

[blue]

can't you download roms for the revolution? damn that would be so cool, its like free games for the revolution, just old!

[Iceman]

Yea I remember reading about that somewhere, but it costs money for every game you download. Like the Xbox arcade thing.

[xtishereb]

I just hope they ditch the boomerang controller. I think that thing is fugly.
If the PS3 is backwards compatable, if I buy one I can finally play this copy of R-Type Final I got when I wanted to try to do PS2 emulation.

[blue]

yeah the controller's pretty damn bad looking. but the designer is only concept. lets hope they do change it, even just a little bit.

[infamous]

i dont mean to be spiteful but...i dont like sony...nor do i like xbox...i like some of the games for both consoles..but i dislike the systems themselves...and i think this way for many reasons...first off let me say that my brother has had 3 playstation 2's....all three broke within months of purchase...need i say more?...as far as xbox goes...i think microsoft should have kept microsoft on the pc and not make a console..its not like they need the money...and the hard drive is a double edge sword idea because while it is true that you can save your games and data without need for memory cards...i have also noticed that when one has used up lots of space for music and such, that the loading time for games actually slows down and sometimes causes glitches in games..not good....therefore i go with the greatest game/console makers ever concieved on planet earth...the big N..nintendo :)

[Iceman]

Well that is being spiteful. I've had my PS2 for 3 years and it has never broke once, could be that your brothers ps2 isn't being treated right. As for Xbox how much music are you putting on there? If it's like 100 well of course it's going to glitch on ya I have about 25 soundtracks and everything is running smoothly.You should be thankful for that option, no other console lets you install music and have no small memory cards that you can easily loose.
I think it's the games that matter. Xbox gives ya Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden, PS2 gives ya final fantasy and the most 3 party games and GCN gives ya mario. As for the Boomerange controller I do hate it, but hopefully they'll change it and even if they don't am just going to buy a third party controller.

[blue]

I agree with Iceman. I've had my ps2 for a long time, and it still works perfectly. maybe its just luck. Its not like Xbox nor Xbox 360 systems never broke down. Nintendo does make great consoles, I loved their N64, and the games on GameCube are superb as usual.
But as the gaming industry advances, players as well as developers would both want better gameplay, may it be more customizable games, or any other ways. I think Sony and Microsoft are doing a great thing in making the game consoles have harddrives, because it allows for more potential to be put into gameplay, as well as media. As stated by Sony, they're not just trying to make a game console, but a media center. I believe in Nintendo will last a long itme keeping up to the tradition of gaming, but sooner or later, I think they will also have to change, or they will be beaten.

[infamous]

i believe you both when you say that your playstations still work...but ive seen 3 go dead for no apparent reason and it was taken care of..but understand when i say that i still have my old nes and snes and they STILL work fine...i simply say that sony produces cheap made hardware..and furthermore i cannot abandon nintendo after all the greatness and inovation they poured into the gaming world...they have more expirience in making games and consoles...not to mention that they own the handheld market by far..nintendo has always and will always make the best quality products and not charge as much as your sony brand and microsoft brand...and as it is sony and xbox do utilize hard drives and that can be a good thing..but if i want to do all that ill stick with what ive had that could do that for years already..my pc...i say if a console is a console let it be that..not play dvds and music and have hard drives...if this keeps up then one day there wont be consoles..there will be pc's...whats the difference? you tell me

[blue]

i believe you both when you say that your playstations still work...but ive seen 3 go dead for no apparent reason and it was taken care of..but understand when i say that i still have my old nes and snes and they STILL work fine...i simply say that sony produces cheap made hardware..and furthermore i cannot abandon nintendo after all the greatness and inovation they poured into the gaming world...they have more expirience in making games and consoles...not to mention that they own the handheld market by far..nintendo has always and will always make the best quality products and not charge as much as your sony brand and microsoft brand...and as it is sony and xbox do utilize hard drives and that can be a good thing..but if i want to do all that ill stick with what ive had that could do that for years already..my pc...i say if a console is a console let it be that..not play dvds and music and have hard drives...if this keeps up then one day there wont be consoles..there will be pc's...whats the difference? you tell me



I agree with you. But don't you think that as time goes on, gamers will start asking for more than just a game console? I mean, it's already started that gamers always wanting more than the console can produce.
It probably will be true that in the future, gaming consoles will be like computers, but from what I can see, this seems to be inevitable. Nintendo, in the end like you said may be the only company left who will still be making what we know as "game consoles."
But who knows, maybe this is Sony's plan. Microsoft has a monopoly in the computer business right now. Maybe it's Sony's goal to make a super somputer that can: beat Microsoft in gaming, as well as work as a pc.

[infamous]

i understand that..but i feel that i'd rather pay 400$ for a new pc that can do way more then a new console...like i said..pc for multimedia AND games..consoles for simply games....theres no point in having consoles if they are just going to imitate what has already been done and try to call it something else

[Iceman]

Well I understand that but you don't have to abandon Nintendo, I have all 3 console systems and I still like nintendo. There are reasons why I prefered to have consoles for one there are exclusive games for consoles like Animal Crossing, sure maybe one day someone will make a good GCN Emulator but it would be different to play it on your PC. Same with online games, I have xbox live and it never lags plus you actually get a communicator. People are having trouble just to get the SNES Emulator to play online.
Just playing some games with your friends on the big T.V is much better than four people trying to play on one computer.

[blue]

I'm not saying I will abandon Nintendo, just that I would be getting a ps3 before a revolution. The reason is simply because more people will have it and I've been waiting for this console ever since e3 last year. Nintendo is still a great game company.

[Iceman]

and furthermore i cannot abandon nintendo after all the greatness and inovation they poured into the gaming world...they have more expirience in making games and consoles...not to mention that they own the handheld market by far..nintendo has always and will always make the best quality products and not charge as much as your sony brand and microsoft brand...and as it is sony and xbox do utilize hard drives and that can be a good thing..but if i want to do all that ill stick with what ive had that could do that for years already..my pc...i say if a console is a console let it be that..not play dvds and music and have hard drives...if this keeps up then one day there wont be consoles..there will be pc's...whats the difference? you tell me
Talking about infamous, I don't see why he says he'll abandon nintendo if he gets a ps2 and xbox.

[infamous]

what i mean by that is this....95% of the people i have talked to say that after the 64 they didnt even give nintendo a chance...when i read magazines all they talk about is the "War" between xbox and sony...frankly that ****es me off...so i say that i shall not abandon nintendo by "buying" other systems...that doesnt help nintendo at all so therefor i see myself sticking right by nintendo's side until the very end...but as i always like to say and truly believe...nintendo started it..they will also finish it...i cant help that i have no liking for imitators like sony and microsoft...and nintendo has many many years of exp...what did sony know about games...what do they know now?...not much because they;re most succesful titles were made by 3rd party developers...same with xbox...nintendo is the only gaming company that makes theyre own systems and makes theyre own "good" games...they are best known for theyre own works like mario and zelda and metroid etc...what do sony and xbox have to brag about? other peoples creations?...cmon now folks..understand what im trying to say...

[Iceman]

Well I don't think anyone can totally agree with your point, but I understand what your saying. I just think nintendo had a disadvantage with the GCN. No online,not as many games,no music or DVD and just not as much M rated games as the other systems. But I still like nintendo as much. With all 3 consoles there's any game I could have.

[infamous]

i understand and i dont exactly "hate" sony and microsoft...hell im using microsofts works right now....but i guess all in all i support nintendo more then anything in the gaming world...if not nintendo....then pc...because deep down i beleive pc's are the true heart of soul of gaming..hell..as of now i have 10 consoles on my pc...10...thats not as much as most of you have im sure but 10 is still alot in any case...and they all work great...sometimes i wonder why i ever play with console games when i have a computer that can do what any console can do only better...but im sure you all understand that already :) anyways i guess thats about all i have to say on that subject for awhile unless someone makes an interesting thread/reply

[savking]

Hmm very interesting posts one of the most meaning full Iv seen on this site so far. I noticed that earlyer on you (infamous) said that your snes still works fine. This is not down to the quaility of the system (though there isnt a lack of it) but infact down to the simplicty of it. Snes systems use carts and psx ect use CDs. In all honesty carts are more or less invincble. CDs are easly damaged and harder to repair, the same aplys to teh equipment required to read thesse two formats. Thats why your snes still runs. But lets put all the cards on the table and wel see that playstation are by far the most unrelyable systems going. And the x-box memory thing only aplys if your storing media. It may occur if you have millions of big saves but iv never encountered it.

[infamous]

yes indeed playstations are the most unreliable systems out there...and i see what u mean by carts being nearly invincible..but..as far as the cds go...im not talking about the ps2's not working on account of damaged disc...because my brothers wouldnt play brand new games and dvds...so thats why i say that sony makes cheap hardware and gets credit for 3rd party developers...thats my point

[Iceman]

How can ps2 be less reliable? All the systems use CD'S in fact GCN has smaller discs which are easier to damage and easier to loose. And am still confused about your brother's PS2, did he buy the system brand new or used? If it's used than there's a chance the person damaged it or if he buys used games the cd could be scratched. Sony does have 3-party developers and it's not a bad thing. Sony has Final Fantasy games which are the best,they have jax & daxter,ratchet & clank,shadow of collouses,god of war,crash bandicoot,GTA Series,Resident Evil...the list could go on and on. Nintendo does make it's own games but there's very little selection. The new games they make just don't seem to be original and new anymore like Super Mario Strikers,Baseball,Tennis,dance remix,Mario Party 4,5,6,7. I do like how Nintendo is still making new Zelda,Metroid and Mario games but they just wern't as good as say Super Metroid,Super Mario64,SMB.1,2,3,SMB world.

[Mjshl2]

What it all comes down to honestly is that electronics are glitchy. IVe had a gamecube go out on me, 3 xboxs, and a ps2. Of course who hasnt had various pc parts that mess up. My personal opinion on Nintendo is that they are going down the drain. There games have been really weak for years now and there just to behind. As much as they dont want graphics to matter they do. As for the whole xbox hdd, ive overloaded my hard drive with music and such and never had a single slowdown from it so im gonna have to say that just simply isnt true, unless you fill it to the max.

[Iceman]

I agree with the whole Nintendo thing. They just didn't cut it this time, the only games that were worth playing was Animal Crossing and SSBM. I did like Super Mario Sunshine but I felt it was just a clone of Super Mario 64. Hopefully the Revolution does better, it's a risky gambit but am sure Nintendo will pull it off. It's not just the games that made the Gamecube the worst of the three, it just didn't have anything else unique to it, say a DVD player,Online and Music. I actually have a question, I know you can buy a broadband adapter for GCN but what purpose does it have?

[infamous]

i cant believe what i am hearing...it seems like what we have here are two people who have left nintendo for 3rd party developers...iceman all the games you mentioned for ps2 were made by 3rd party developers..and if they werent then they simply sucked....and yes..my brothers ps2's were all bought brand new...never used...same with the games..so i dont wanna hear any excuses about scratched cds and used hardware(althought sony might as well release used hardware because thats about the quality of their products....every game nintendo has made was awesome...not good...not bad...but awesome....and better then that they made it theyre selves in there own in-house develpment studios....what have sony and microsoft got on that?....and as far as final fantasy...need i remind each of you that the series has its roots with nintendo....unfortunatly like most others square decided to get money hungry and go the way of countless other developers and leave theyre roots for what?...good games on cheap hardware?...and graphics are but one faucet of importance....any of you ever played metroid prime?....personally thats my favorite in the series...the graphics are awesome...gameplay is even better...and as far as being behind????....resident evil 4....by far the best graphics i have seen in any console game..argue if you will but i know better...nintendos problem is that theyre being betrayed by developers and abandoned by theyre "used to be" loyal fans if any...i am obviously one of the few and the proud left who still support nintendo to the fullest...i have never for a moment doubted theyre ability to make he greatest games in the world....and about the smaller cds... i dont need to tell you how many times i couldnt get my psx games to work right...or my xbox to load the right way or not glitch in morrowind...but i can promise you that i have never ever had any kind of problems whatsoever with my gamecube...well thats about it for now like always...had to get all that off my chest...im sure you guys have some kind of excuse to throw at me but its all good...like i always say...nintendo started it...and they will finish it!

[Fantasymoon]

Alright..First just let me say a game is a game no matter what system its on. Im so sick of hearing about the gaming "war". since when did peaceful gamers become clashing warriors? What has happened? AnywayZ, I am a advant Nintendo gamer. Ive always had the new nintendo..never had problems with them. However, as a gamer I also had to keep an open mind therefore I checked out sega and sony and now microsoft. Sega did well their first few years now they kinda make me :eek: .... As a huge Final Fantasy fan I was over joyed to know that the series had returned to the Us and with updated graphics. I had heard rumors that the ps1 was started on by Nintendo and sony till nintendo scraped that..so nintendo even had a small hand in sony's success..Third party developing can be good but it just doesnt have the same feel as titles such as Zelda or Metroid..Its like "shallow gaming". But for every one good game on ps1 or 2 there are 10 crap games..its like you have to wade through the bs to get to what your after. Id rather have a few good games than alot of crap.(Square excluded). I love ff but it isnt made by sony..thank god..id hate to see that.
When gamers go looking for dvd players and that kind of crap for thier consoles they are looking in the wrong direction. If you have ever had a ps2 that still funtioned properly when playing dvds then you know other people will want to just use ur dvd player..that takes away from your gaming time..who wants that? Im a gamer. Pure and Simple! Always Have been always will be..when i want to watch a movie i could watch it on a dvd player which doesnt cost have as much to have + a complete system..Sony were never true gamers. They dont have the essence..they are all about dvd players, cd players and other eletronics. Microsoft has more expierience in gaming yet they are too technical...like i said before for the cost of an xbox 360 or a ps3 i could have a console, dvd player, cd player and a library of games, cds or movies. So I'm for the revolution, yes, but my second pick is Xbox 360 only because they have gaming expierience, sony doesn't know what it means to be a true gamer! SO there! NINTENDO POWER!!!:D :D ;)

[Iceman]

Well first of all am very open minded about games. Second no Nintendo did not own Sony at any point in history, Sony wanted Nintendo to make games for them, Nintendo found that insulting and have always being rivals with Sony. Fantasymoon and infamous. Third party developers are not just some crappy second game and I doubt you played any of the games mentioned. Nintendo does not make as many games as you think like Metroid Prime is made by a Third-Party developer so is ,Harvest Moon,Mario Party,Mario Tennis and many more. Sony and Microsoft are doing exellent jobs with there games. Sony has experience with what gamers want, good graphics and long and excellent gameplay, Sony is more about technology so you can image what third-party developers can do with the systems there going to make. If it wasn't for Sony you wouldn't enjoy probably the greatest games ever FFVII,FFVIII,FFVIIII,Twisted Metal 2 GTA 3 and Metal Gear Solid.Why?,cause cartridges couldn't handle that much data.
As for Xbox they do know alot about technology and games, There only going to improve there system more and more, and are especially going to lead the way in online gaming.
Am a huge fan of Nintendo too and love the games they do put out. Like you said fantasymoon a game is a game it doesn't matter what system they put it on. Well there wasn't as many games as the others but the games they did have were good, SSBM,Pikmin,Animal Crossing,Sunshine...ect.)
What it all comes down to is all 3 company's are going to lead the way in gaming. I will always buy Nintendo,Sony and Microsoft games and systems. And play the ones I like for each system. All systems are great and i've had none of them break on me, i've had all systems for around 3-4years.
To close, Third-Party Developers are just as good as any other company that makes games. Example is Square-Enix, they made some of the best games you'll see for Sony and Nintendo and there CGI technology is amazing much better than Dreamworks. Am not trying to compare systems or games. Some are good and some are bad. Long live Nintendo,Sony and Microsoft.:cool:

[Fantasymoon]

Firstly, I never said Nintendo owned Sony, only that id heard they were partners or at least thinking about it once..AnywayZ, Doubt all you want about the games Ive played, that doesnt really matter except to me cuz im the one who enjoyed them.
Second, I know I would have still enjoyed FF 7-9 without sony. If you have noticed since final fantasy 10 it seems Square is running short of good ideas. Im not saying all they are bad games but they just dont appeal as much. I believe most people played them because they had already trusted Square from previous titles..that leads me to believe Square being "somewhat" money hungary would have found any console to put it on as long as it fit into the media they wanted it to such as disk. They could have put it on dreamcast..Maybe that would have led to its sucess..who knows? And you are right 3 companys are going to lead the way in gaming. But only one is going to put the gaming world in a new perspective. Nintendo is actually trying to put u in tha game more with this new controller for example it would allow you to actually swing your sword or light saber or what have you. Microsoft and sony are just doing the same old things all the time with the exception of Microsofts online gaming. Thats all for now...:)

[Iceman]

Well am not doubting the games I enjoyed them too, I just didn't think they were "perfect" games to play. As for FF10 true I didn't enjoy it that much but am hoping that FF12 will shine some light on a brand new RPG and I don't think they need to be worrying about making money lol. There's just one thing I don't agree on and that is Sony and Microsoft being stale in their systems. If you read the very first post the PS3 is going to have a way different direction in there controllers too, also this blue-ray discs sounds like it's going to change the way discs are been made. As for Xbox360 it seems like what you excpected to be for a new system. Same controller,New graphics and some new games. Like you said it's there online that's going to change the way about games. Webcams,Headsets,Friends List,Tournaments,Celebrity play,Download content,No lag,fun games,different ranks that say how good you are,unlock weapons and other stuff for how good you do online and my favorite marketplace you can actually say create a car and sell it for money.
So you see it's not just Nintendo that's making gaming better, Nintendo took the path of being in the game,Sony took the path of expanding the game and Xbox took the path of online gaming.
Wow image if all 3 companys joined forces!:eek:

[Fantasymoon]

You make some good points. Its true All three have done their part to expand the gaming industry. Id hate to see all three join forces..too many cooks in the kitchen...blah blah. What I meant about square being "greedy" is back when they first started and with 10 because they didnt seem to make as much time with it as the other three. Kinda gave me the idea they just threw something together just to sell it. But Then again I havent spent as much time as I liked to with 10 but from what I seen of it Tidus wasn't nearly as strong or cool as cloud or squall or Zidane even. I hope they use the ps3 capabilities to the fullest when making future titles.

[Elric]

The best thing about the whole situation is competition. If only one of the three- Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo- were left making consoles do you think we would see them coming up with these new and innovative ways to play games?
I hope all three of these companies have continued success and keep pushing not only the technological boundaries but also changing the ways that we interact with the games themselves, ala Nintendo.
Keep the systems and games coming guy's. I'm loving every minute of it!

[Iceman]

Yea I see what you mean moon, Tidus wasn't just as cool as most of them.

Yea Elric you make some good points too, I guess all company's need some monopoly to push themselfs farther.
Wow we all agree now lol.

[Fantasymoon]

True Elric...I guess everybody needs ideas to bounce off of..even the greatest thinkers such as Hideo Kajima..or miyamoto..the list goes on...I love video games..and if this somewhat violent competion has to continue for the sake of gamerZ im down but I still think at some point its going to come down to only one...
I still think that Nintendo as come the closest to discovering true virtual reality gameing tho...they are probaly still years away from the general idea..but I guess thats best posted somewhere else..;)

[Elric]

The thing I'm worrying about when it comes to the PS3 isn't the price of the system so much but the price of the games. If this new Blue Tech will be harder to work with and cost more to work with you know that's coming out of our pockets and not Sony's and that means the price of the games will probably be ridiculous.
I look at the 60$ price of some of the 360 games now and can't help but think they will go up as well when developers start coming up with killer apps for the system and put a little more development time into the game making process. I still like the idea of competition not allowing the big three and third party developers to become complacent but after walking around in the Gamestop store today and thinking the cost involved I doubt that I'll be buying all of the next gen systems and a ton of games for each this time around like I have in the past. Yep I'm gonna try to have a little bit of self control.
As a matter of fact if Nintendo comes through with the Revolution, as in if all the great things I'm hearing about it like price, online, and backwards compatibility with all of those great games AND the focus on game play over graphics and a Death Star system I'll be trading my 360 in on one.
And I'm sure that Nintendo knows that a lot of other people will be feeling the same way and this is part of their plan to keep in the fight and maybe, just maybe prove that they've been right all along. Except when it comes to online. They were wrong about that big time but it seems they've come around in a big way and all will be cool in this time.
But, errr.....if in the future you see my starting a thread about the cool new PS3 or 360 game I just got and how great it is just remember. I'm a gamer. I'm addicted. I keep telling myself its under control and I can stop anytime I want but, the sad truth is I probably WILL buy all three and I'm just deluding myself about worrying about the cost and being prudent with my money.
In fact I can see that some time in my future I'll be walking in my door after work and I'll see my girlfriend and my friends all sitting there waiting for me with all of my systems and games , even my old pong WHAT THE HELL, sitting in a pile on the living room floor.
"Elric," my girl will say. " We're all here because we love you and care about you. We worry about all of the time and money you spend on these damn games. Its too much of both Elric! Now, don't freak out honey we're here to help you and the best way we could think of is..............an INTERVENTION! Why are you running away? Drop the Snes and come back and talk to us! Somebody stop him! Elric......Elric... come back......"

[Fantasymoon]

I agree with you on gaming prices going up. Its getting harder to be a gamer with small pockets...Nintendo has that right for sure, good quality games for the same price but you never know when they are going to switch disk formats or if at all. What do you mean by death star system? Is that just a term for something else or what? I havent heard anything about it..If I had the money I would buy all three systems. Games I want to play are going to be on both systems but as of right now im going to sit back and watch...
About your girlfriend and friends..lolz..I offer you this as hope I believe there is a video game out there for everyone. I know at least 2 girls who say they hate video games but I got one to play Namco's classics on Ps1 and the other finally admitted she liked Super Mario world and Mario 64...SO all hope is not lost..:cool:

[Elric]

Remember Star Wars and the Death Star that Luke Skywalker had to fly into and blow up using the force to aim? That's the old joke about next gen systems, that so and so is coming out with the Death Star of the Gaming galaxy and it will blow every one else away!
And I'm just joking about my girl too. She doesn't complain too much about my playing video games because I really only use our main TV to watch football and the Soprano's and she gets it the rest of the time. I'm like a seasonal TV watcher who's addicted to video games and she's a TV junkie who's addicted to Crime Drama's and Daytime soaps but will occasionally join me in a game of Tetris or Watch me when I play Madden online.

[infamous]

i havent posted in a while...ive been extremly busy in real life...playing guitar...playing games :)...and trying to convince gamers that sony is brainwashing america's gaming populous into buying theyre products lmao...just kidding...but anyways...i have read everyones posts...and i have thought about them all...and all i can really say is this...the first time i picked up a game controller and knew what to do..i was about 7-8ish....our first NES system....and super mario brothers.....and if im not mistaken it is the best selling game of all times....i wonder how many sony and xbox fans my age or a bit older feel about the whole situation....i wonder what they think about nintendo when they turn on the xbox or playstation....do they even care to think that nintendo gave them the first really good reason to play games after the joke that atari was?...do they not feel remorse for leaving nintendo behind?....and yes..i say leave them behind because that is what has happened....people may say that if there was only one system then everything would be lame??...how is that?...if you use your head and think about it..if nintendo were standing alone with consoles..then obviously ALL the games that came out would be on theyre system right?...whats wrong with that?...is it not the same just because its being projected from a different box?...im so sick and tired of hearing people brag, "oh man playstation and xbox have way better graphics!"....to this i say first off...bull****...and secondly..how in the can you say that one system has better graphics then the other when technically all three have the same power....with the exception of processor speed....in that case the ranking goes like this...xbox has the most mghz.....gamecube next...and sony in last...technically making the ps2 the weakest of all three systems....and yes unreliable....i mean first of all....2 controller sockets...nintendo has had 4 sockets since the 64 was out...purely signifying multiplayer potential....and on that note nintendo doesnt force the player to buy a 20$ piece of hardware just to play with 4 people...but i guess nobody notices that either...at least xbox got that part right...and say what you want about your ps2 never messing up..but i think that 85% of everyone i know knows what "disc read error" means...never got that message in my gamecube...hmm...nor do i need to mention how ****ed off a person can get when playing a really good game and having it freeze on you during a cg cinema...that sucks ass....i mean how many bad thingd do i have to expose to the public's already oblivious eyes before they realize that sony equals nothing but this....cheap made hardware at a price you CANT afford...plastic is sturdier in a frisbee for christs sake....my friend marlon bought a ps2 when they came out...dropped the bag with the system in it...just once...not very far from the floor either..but guess what...it BROKE....how sad and uncool...now let me tell you the tale of my first gamecube....got it for xmas....had it sitting on top of my tv...a good 7 feet in the air...my little brother ran by and tripped the cord causing it to fall off...it landed upside down with a thud on the HARDWOOD floor...and guess what...not only did nothing happen to it externally...but my game was still playing!!!...if i have to say anything more then that to convince a normal person then i've said all i can say...this will more then likely be my last entry in this thread as im sure that someone will have something to say to defend the great stereo and tv maker called sony...that is all for me..for now...and as always....im a gamer at heart and a justicar at mind...i fight for the better of the common man and the avid gamer....not for wannabe's and stragglers.....

[Iceman]

Do you have to say that after every thread? "This will be my last post I don't care what you think about xbox or ps2" Well bravo your very open-minded for that. If everything was on the GCN that would suck! First of all yes graphics,sound and everything else on a hardware are "different!". Second GCN has 4 controllers wow, now I can play an even harder split-screen game,Third no online for GCN ,that would really suck.
Sony isn't forcing you to buy there extension, i've had my ps2 for 3years and i've never needed one. Enough with that stupid my friends ps2 broke, well tell your friend not to carry it in a plastic bag and maybe it won't fall and if you scratch the hell out of cd's which is what you probably did, your gonna get that message. I've had plenty of GCN games do that too. Well am gonna say the same thing here, my friends GCN broke because he dropped it. No different.
Your only objection to Sony and Microsoft is "I grew up with Nintendo" I'd like to see you make a PS2 and a Xbox, it's not that easy.
You just bad mouth Sony and Microsoft all the time and never give there games a chance........wow your avatar is on a Sony game!
All systems are great and all the games are great, your fight is worthless.

[Elric]

If a complete unknown entered the console market and made the best system for the best price AND had the best games you could get I would buy that system and games. That's not disrespecting Nintendo that's getting the most out of my money and getting the best that I can for ME. I didn't marry Nintendo when I bought my first NES, SNES, N64 and Gamecube and all of the games I bought for each system. I'll be using them (Probably ) for the rest of my life and end up passing them on to my children and grandchildren.
The folks over at Nintendo are big boys and can take care of themselves. They don't care about me they care about my MONEY and If they don't offer me what I want when it comes to games ( and thats what its all about. Games, not system specs ) then they don't get my money.

[infamous]

ok ive heard about enough defence for a system and maker who doesnt ****ing deserve it..im sick and tired of seeing microsoft and sony take credit for other peoples works...yes my avatar shpws squall from final fantasy VIII...and i dont have to tell you that thats a product of squaresoft before the turned to **** and crap combined..sony didnt create final fantasy..square did...sony was just the host for some of the games...why do you keep saying that sony makes good games when they dont?....crash bandicoot?..spyro?...yea ok compare that bull**** to mario and zelda...ratchet and who?...jak and fagster?...yea ok..great games im sure...anyways the cd's were BRAND NEW for the last goddamn time....no scratches or anything of the sort...it all comes down to cheap ass plastic sweat shop made ****ing machinery and anynbody who thinks its worth even close to whats its being sold for is a fool and shouldnt even be playing games to begin with...sony is a racketeer....a ****ing hoax who makes money and credit from other peoples games...i dont dislike them..i ****ing loathe them with a twisted heart...**** sony...**** microsoft..and **** whoever doesnt agree with my simple logic...im not here to make friends..im here to tell people where the heart and soul of gaming belongs..and thats to nintendo..LONG LIVE THE KING OF ALL GAMES AND THE START AND THE FINISH TO A GAMING ERA....the end.....



P.S... no more stupid posts about scratched discs or other bull**** excuses please i dont have time for such nonsense..and quit saying that sony makes good games for ****s sake
thank you

[savking]

Sony and microsft dont make good games eh? Well need I remind you of Halo the most popular if not best fps shooter of all time. And bringing up spyro and crash is totaly irelavent these two games are now both dated and aimed at younger markets rather than zelda which now apeals to fanboys more than gamers in general. Im not saying that i dont like any of these games but that your veiws are crippled and predgerdist towards sony and microsoft for some resons.
You say that sony is a con but if we have a look at nintedo have been puting off this new game cube zelda game now for to long. This isnt because theyve got some many great ideas but becuase if they relesed it now it would be walked all over buy all the other games that are out and selling atthe moment. You say your not here to make any friend well the fact that you even took that in to concideration says alot about you your self. No one is actualy here to make any friends most people are here just to talk or becuase we have to much time to our selfs.

[Iceman]

Well no matter how much you loathe them, there big companys, they do make great games and host some of the best games to date. Obviously your just some Nintendo fanboy who just complains about the other systems. Your not gonna change my mind and millions of others by complaining. And were not going to change your mind by telling you how great they are. Your missing out on some good Sony and Microsoft games, I doubt you haven't even tryed some good Sony and Microsoft games because your too busy complaining about some bad games that they made. Well whatever keep complaining it's not gonna get you anywhere....oh and for the last time, stop saying that "this is my last post" cause obviously it wasn't.

[savking]

Im 100% with you on this one iceman. what we have here is a very dramatic, atention seeking fanboy. I never have disliked nintendo and i think that someothers would agree with me on that but you make out like their SOOOOO amazing when clearly theor not. The only reson to explain your irational behaveuor is that:
1) Your Masahiro Sakura himself (i think thats his name)
2) a bill gates vilontley murdered your family with x-boxes origonal control
3) who ever made playstations killed your dog

[infamous]

halo....please dont get me started on halo...microsoft didnt make halo...bungee made halo...but anyways lets just
'say" that microsoft made it...anyways ive played both halos and they didnt impress me in the slightest bit..halo did nothing to the 1st person shooter genre that hadnt already been done...they didnt even have dual weilding until the second installment!! what the ****?...i do believe that better games like goldeneye 007 and perfect dark and unreal tournament already had these features way before halo even came out..including online multiplayer madness...so say what you want i care not...sony does NOT make good games...third party developers make good games for the system....same for xbox...the games that they have made on theyre own have totally sucked big sweaty balls....you cant compare any game made by these two "juggernauts" that even come close to a nintendo masterpiece...so go ahead and keep on saying that they make good games..keep diluding yourself that you own a quality system...but i know and people that agree with me know that nintendo is the greatest that there ever was..is...and will be...**** a dvd player and cd player built in...i buy a system for games..not media...if you want to do all that i have a simple solution...buy a ****ing computer moron..you'll probably come out cheaper anyway...hell i think that the dreamcast was a better system them both xbox and playstation..so **** em.. and do i dont **** anybody off then no this will not be my last post..in fact is has just begun..because there isnt anything that you can say that isnt full of bull****...just like the systems you so defend...big steaming pile of bull****...peace

[savking]

right well i apologise for thinkin that microsft made halo. but you have just wrote the most amount of arse ever. i also apologise for ever even leavin a post in this thread. you are a complete fanboy and the point of arguing against you is nil.

[infamous]

i'd rather be a fanboy then a gamer whos lost his soul to the corporate world....enough said

[Elric]

I'm sure we all love Nintendo ( I do any way ) we're just not anal about it.
I've got my GCN right along side of my PS2 and XboX360 and N64.
And I have had two ( Yep TWO ) PS2s go bad on me and because I registered the first one as soon as I bought it Sony had no problems replacing them for free even though the warranty had long expired both times. I just called them up, got an order number and an address, sent them in and the first one took three weeks to be delivered but the second time it only took ten days. And they didn't just refurbish my system either. They sent me new ones. Sure I could be a prick and complain about the shipping charges it cost me ( about 18.00$ total ) and the time I had to wait to for them to send them but I'm not. They were cool as hell about it both times and I've had my new one for quite a while now with no problems.
Why did they go bad? I don't know and I really don't care. They took care of me and my experience with Sony has been good and I've enjoyed playing a hell of a lot of great third party games on their systems.
So that makes me a gamer who's "lost his soul to the corporate world"?
Grow up! I've been playing games since the Atari and Colecovision days and will still be playing until arthritis cripples my old hands until they can no longer hold on to a controller. You go right ahead and play Nintendo games and only Nintendo games all you want to. I'll be playing them too. But I'll also be enjoying the rest of the stuff that you're missing out on. Soul intact, controller in my hand and a smile on my face.

[savking]

that the most sencefull and honest post ive read in this thread to date. I think infamous is "anal" about nintendo and needs to open his eyes to the other systems capability to make and licenece not only graphicly good games but also great gameplay and much more powerfull systems which is were all the next generation game creators need to play their games. no1 here h8s nintendo but their consloes date rapidly and are simply not open enuogh to even suport netplay yet. im suprised you havnt bin nagging about the ds and psp yet. psp was sonys first handheld system and was a very good one too. nintendo with all due respect were the top dogs in handheld gaming but now i truely beleive that sony hae captured the spotlight simply by making their console more media orentated (music video ect) this is true to say with the ps2 and x-box. nintendo also feared the psp's selling power aswell because they released thye ds before psp to get the uncany advantage of time.

[infamous]

i can do nothing but laugh at some of the things i hear from people here...i think its funny that most people who talk about playstation and how good they are can only say good things about the third party games..how ironic...now let me ask you who deserves the credit for making these games..sony?...microsoft?...i do believe that these two systems most popular games were made by other people?...ohh but its cool nobody believes me i guess...but no big deal...but hey lets just forget the FACT that sony and xbox systems sell because of the games that other people make for them...and lets just pretend that nintendo isnt the only developer/producer/console maker who got famous on the games that THEY made...lets just pretend it never happened right?...what the mother****...im not like that..i cant just pretend that nintendo didnt make everything great about games that they are....i cant pretend that super mario 64 didnt set the standard for awesome 3D controls that almost all games still try to mimick...let us not forget tomb raiders horrible graphics and even more horrible gameplay and controls...and ocarina of time?...not the greatest 3D adventure game ever made?...yea ok.. sure thing..i think that what everyone else fails to see is that sony and xbox get alot of spotlight from games that werent even made by them...for example...resident evil....capcom....final fantasy...square...grand theft auto...rockstar...halo...bungee....need i go on?...all the games that sell the system are made by other developers...and they get credit for it?...does that sound right to you?...hmm....not me..i would much rather stick with the people that not only know how to make a quality system but also know how to make the best games in the gaming world...the reason nintendo isnt doing as good is because 3rd party development...i dont know why they dont put the same games on gamcube as ps2 and xbox...because it has nothing to do with power...like i said gamecube has more power then the ps2...and if you think im bull****ting then go to your local gamestop or eb games and ask them....and you clearly dont listen to me when im talking..because you think that my eyes are shielded from all other games...i love final fantasy VIII and tactics....not nintendos work but so what...i love morrowind..there again not nintendo...what i dont like is the systems..not the games..a game is a game no matter what system it is on right?....my problem is sony and xbox taking credit for the works of others...i would respect them much more if there systems werent made in a sweat shop...if they worked all the time and not just when they want to...and if they didnt focus more on media content then games like they have been....i know that people like these cool features but when it comes down to it media and music and movies have nothing to do with games...if sony and xbox made games on theyre own that were even half as good as the games that nintendo made then i would have respect for them...but until then,..and until they stop taking credit for other peoples games...i will never like playstation and xbox...never..say what you want...call it anal...whatever i could care less...all i know is that im true to whats real and true to whats true and honest...i can never be a multi console owner....i can play the games if the need arouses but why bother...i play games for the pure reason that they give me pleasure...not because of the "cool" cg cinemas...not because they have hard drive compatabilty...not because you can play them online..thats what pcs are for and personally i think that online play should be left for the games that rule the online world....mmorpgs....enough said there...nintendo doesnt need online play to be good..as we have already clearly seen...and yes they are big boys who more then know how to handle things...have you heard that on theyre next system theyre going to offer free basic online play...and have a feature of downloading and playing your favorite old school titles on your revolution..is playstation or microsoft going to do that?...no...and the simple reason is that they havent been around half as long as nintendo and dont have any good old school titles to play..or enough to make available for download...the last thing im going to say in this post is this...sony is in it for the money and the fame...microsoft is always in it just for the money..and nintendo is in it for the fans...for the loyal people who have stuck with them through all the imitators and wannabes....nintendo makes games to make people happy..not to put a few dollars in the pocket...say something about that please...tell me something that i said thats not true i dare you...tell me that i just told a bunch of lies...i dont care because i know that its as truthful as it gets....anal...yea theres a word for the ages...

[Mjshl2]

LMAO, dude your taking this way to seriously. Calm down, everyone is entitled to there own opinion. But the simple truth is that the majority of opinions feel the gamecube was worthless and nintendo lost there touch ever since then. Name me more than 3 games for the cube that are so great. Let me just say that nintendo has made a sea of crappy games for that system. Mario baseball and soccer, Donkey Konga. Zelda the windwaker, wario, Mario Sunshine. All those games were terrible. Now im not sayin that nintendo gamecube is complete crap, but rather that a good system needs more than 15 good first party titles. Thats why the others are so popular compared to nintendo, they actually have good 3rd party support. As for nintendo starting it and finishing it,
Nintendo lost there touch as soon as they decided being innovative is all that matters to them. There ideas are getting to wacky, and there time would have been up if it wasnt for there insanely successful line of handhelds. They may have started gaming, and they state that being innovative and new is what makes games fun, but honestly a two screen handheld one with a touch screen is a really lame idea, and there revolution remote thing is 100 times worse from what ive seen. I will agree though that the gamecube is highly underrated, and i own atleast 25 cube games. Also despite what ps2 fanboys say, the gamecube graphics are far superior to the ps2 since it has an ati graohics card that can actually do pixel shading and a few other things. But that just doesnt cut it. Xbox i have 45 games and i still want many more. Ps2 is about the same.
There game selection has been to slow from the start. Also, u cant tell me that nintendo deciding graphics dont matter isnt complete bs. The simple truth is
to be new and innovative you would need to keep progressing in graphics and gameplay. Its the overall package that counts, and for the past few years microsoft has had the best overall package runner up being sony. Nintendo neglects to many features. They call it being innovative and trying to make games fun, i call it being lazy. I will place final judgment on the Revolution when ive actualy played one but Nintendos line of games are crap compared to the massive amounts of good 3rd and first party games sony and Microsoft has. You cant even try and tell me that microsofts games havent been great. Ive played to many games for all three systems to say that nintendo takes the cake. The facts are simple nintendo isnt the master gaming company anymore. Get over it, and go buy a 360.

[Fantasymoon]

okay to begin with I agree with alot of the things infamous says. Yes SOny and MicRoSofT are greedy bass terds.
I cant say that windwaker is a bad game...ive played it and beaten it many times and it is still entertaining and no im not a blond lolz. I was horrified of the graphics at first but then i gave it a try and it is a awesome game. Nintendo didnt let me down with the gamecube they let me down with mario... :( poor mario No more spagetti for him..AnywayZ, I cant think of 15 FIRST PARTy games that are good for ps2 or the Xbox..Heh, I cant even think of one..ill make a thread about that when im done..
Microsoft and sony have the recources to appeal to all gamers if they chose to by making 2 versions of their product. One a straight up console the other the pricey entertainment center. That would be cool. Thats all I have to say for now. Peace:D

[Iceman]

Well looking back on your posts, I don't see a reason why you think Sony and Microsoft are being greedy. They make your computers, your game systems, your blank discs,your walkmans lalala the list could go on. So what if Sony and Microsoft don't make there own games...they have third-party developers too do that, but they do make other products themselfs, Your using Microsofts computers to download roms, talk to people, get information and download music which Sony helps you by letting you keep all your information on a little disc. Sony also lets you grab a pair of headphones,sit down on a bed and crank up some downloaded music. Sony and Microsoft isn't all about the gaming business, Nintendo is. That's why you see Nintendo making games, that's what there all about. So if you like Nintendo's wacky and innovating games...get the Revolution. If you like games made by great third-party developers..go with Sony and Microsoft.

[blue]

okay to begin with I agree with alot of the things infamous says. Yes SOny and MicRoSofT are greedy bass terds.
I cant say that windwaker is a bad game...ive played it and beaten it many times and it is still entertaining and no im not a blond lolz. I was horrified of the graphics at first but then i gave it a try and it is a awesome game. Nintendo didnt let me down with the gamecube they let me down with mario... :( poor mario No more spagetti for him..AnywayZ, I cant think of 15 FIRST PARTy games that are good for ps2 or the Xbox..Heh, I cant even think of one..ill make a thread about that when im done..
Microsoft and sony have the recources to appeal to all gamers if they chose to by making 2 versions of their product. One a straight up console the other the pricey entertainment center. That would be cool. Thats all I have to say for now. Peace:D



As you said yourself, Nintendo make good GAMES. M$ and Sony makes good SYSTEMS. So maybe it is time for a little change. I think Nintendo should focus on making better games instead of a better console.

[Elric]

If you have limitations on the amount of systems you can own-Financial or Parental-I can understand weighing the options of each system and only picking the one that best suits you. If, on the other hand, you are just going to say that only Nintendo makes their own games so I'm only buying the Revolution then are you also going to limit yourself to buying ONLY the games that are actually made by Nintendo in house developers? Because if the only reason you're drinking Sony and Microsoft hateraide is the fact that they don't have great in house developers and third party games have made them more successful than the big N in recent years then you shouldn't want ANY third party games. And if you don't play any third party games then......well you can see where this is going can't you? Its going to a sad state of mind.
Hey, if someone wants to build a big N as a shrine and bow to it every day with Nintendo's new controller in one hand and a set of Donky Konga Bongos in the other while chanting mantras designed to keep the evil powers of the demons Sony and Microsoft away I say more power to ya. Chant away brother.
Just don't expect me to hum Ns all day with you. I'll be busy playing all the great new Rock Star, Square Enix and other third party games on all three of my shiny new systems. Oh yea, I'll be playing the new Nintendo games too. Nintendo games rock! I loved Mario Sunshine.

[infamous]

i have had a period of time away from the computer as i believe'd i had better things to do with my life...(like play guitar with my bandmate and try to write music)...but in any case i had to check back with the site and see how people were getting along in the world of gaming...me personally i havent played really any games since i last posted with the exception on pokemon gold on gba...im not going to say anything else about any other console make except that i wish them all the best of luck...im happy about nintendos new system other then the name change that sounds so gay...oh well...i guess ill post later when theres something worth talking about :)

[Iconoclast]

that the most sencefull and honest post ive read in this thread to date. I think infamous is "anal" about nintendo and needs to open his eyes to the other systems capability to make and licenece not only graphicly good games but also great gameplay and much more powerfull systems which is were all the next generation game creators need to play their games. no1 here h8s nintendo but their consloes date rapidly and are simply not open enuogh to even suport netplay yet. im suprised you havnt bin nagging about the ds and psp yet. psp was sonys first handheld system and was a very good one too. nintendo with all due respect were the top dogs in handheld gaming but now i truely beleive that sony hae captured the spotlight simply by making their console more media orentated (music video ect) this is true to say with the ps2 and x-box. nintendo also feared the psp's selling power aswell because they released thye ds before psp to get the uncany advantage of time.
i can do nothing but laugh at some of the things i hear from people here...i think its funny that most people who talk about playstation and how good they are can only say good things about the third party games..how ironic...now let me ask you who deserves the credit for making these games..sony?...microsoft?...i do believe that these two systems most popular games were made by other people?...ohh but its cool nobody believes me i guess...but no big deal...but hey lets just forget the FACT that sony and xbox systems sell because of the games that other people make for them...and lets just pretend that nintendo isnt the only developer/producer/console maker who got famous on the games that THEY made...lets just pretend it never happened right?...what the mother****...im not like that..i cant just pretend that nintendo didnt make everything great about games that they are....i cant pretend that super mario 64 didnt set the standard for awesome 3D controls that almost all games still try to mimick...let us not forget tomb raiders horrible graphics and even more horrible gameplay and controls...and ocarina of time?...not the greatest 3D adventure game ever made?...yea ok.. sure thing..i think that what everyone else fails to see is that sony and xbox get alot of spotlight from games that werent even made by them...for example...resident evil....capcom....final fantasy...square...grand theft auto...rockstar...halo...bungee....need i go on?...all the games that sell the system are made by other developers...and they get credit for it?...does that sound right to you?...hmm....not me..i would much rather stick with the people that not only know how to make a quality system but also know how to make the best games in the gaming world...the reason nintendo isnt doing as good is because 3rd party development...i dont know why they dont put the same games on gamcube as ps2 and xbox...because it has nothing to do with power...like i said gamecube has more power then the ps2...and if you think im bull****ting then go to your local gamestop or eb games and ask them....and you clearly dont listen to me when im talking..because you think that my eyes are shielded from all other games...i love final fantasy VIII and tactics....not nintendos work but so what...i love morrowind..there again not nintendo...what i dont like is the systems..not the games..a game is a game no matter what system it is on right?....my problem is sony and xbox taking credit for the works of others...i would respect them much more if there systems werent made in a sweat shop...if they worked all the time and not just when they want to...and if they didnt focus more on media content then games like they have been....i know that people like these cool features but when it comes down to it media and music and movies have nothing to do with games...if sony and xbox made games on theyre own that were even half as good as the games that nintendo made then i would have respect for them...but until then,..and until they stop taking credit for other peoples games...i will never like playstation and xbox...never..say what you want...call it anal...whatever i could care less...all i know is that im true to whats real and true to whats true and honest...i can never be a multi console owner....i can play the games if the need arouses but why bother...i play games for the pure reason that they give me pleasure...not because of the "cool" cg cinemas...not because they have hard drive compatabilty...not because you can play them online..thats what pcs are for and personally i think that online play should be left for the games that rule the online world....mmorpgs....enough said there...nintendo doesnt need online play to be good..as we have already clearly seen...and yes they are big boys who more then know how to handle things...have you heard that on theyre next system theyre going to offer free basic online play...and have a feature of downloading and playing your favorite old school titles on your revolution..is playstation or microsoft going to do that?...no...and the simple reason is that they havent been around half as long as nintendo and dont have any good old school titles to play..or enough to make available for download...the last thing im going to say in this post is this...sony is in it for the money and the fame...microsoft is always in it just for the money..and nintendo is in it for the fans...for the loyal people who have stuck with them through all the imitators and wannabes....nintendo makes games to make people happy..not to put a few dollars in the pocket...say something about that please...tell me something that i said thats not true i dare you...tell me that i just told a bunch of lies...i dont care because i know that its as truthful as it gets....anal...yea theres a word for the ages...
LMAO, dude your taking this way to seriously. Calm down, everyone is entitled to there own opinion. But the simple truth is that the majority of opinions feel the gamecube was worthless and nintendo lost there touch ever since then. Name me more than 3 games for the cube that are so great. Let me just say that nintendo has made a sea of crappy games for that system. Mario baseball and soccer, Donkey Konga. Zelda the windwaker, wario, Mario Sunshine. All those games were terrible. Now im not sayin that nintendo gamecube is complete crap, but rather that a good system needs more than 15 good first party titles. Thats why the others are so popular compared to nintendo, they actually have good 3rd party support. As for nintendo starting it and finishing it,
Nintendo lost there touch as soon as they decided being innovative is all that matters to them. There ideas are getting to wacky, and there time would have been up if it wasnt for there insanely successful line of handhelds. They may have started gaming, and they state that being innovative and new is what makes games fun, but honestly a two screen handheld one with a touch screen is a really lame idea, and there revolution remote thing is 100 times worse from what ive seen. I will agree though that the gamecube is highly underrated, and i own atleast 25 cube games. Also despite what ps2 fanboys say, the gamecube graphics are far superior to the ps2 since it has an ati graohics card that can actually do pixel shading and a few other things. But that just doesnt cut it. Xbox i have 45 games and i still want many more. Ps2 is about the same.
There game selection has been to slow from the start. Also, u cant tell me that nintendo deciding graphics dont matter isnt complete bs. The simple truth is
to be new and innovative you would need to keep progressing in graphics and gameplay. Its the overall package that counts, and for the past few years microsoft has had the best overall package runner up being sony. Nintendo neglects to many features. They call it being innovative and trying to make games fun, i call it being lazy. I will place final judgment on the Revolution when ive actualy played one but Nintendos line of games are crap compared to the massive amounts of good 3rd and first party games sony and Microsoft has. You cant even try and tell me that microsofts games havent been great. Ive played to many games for all three systems to say that nintendo takes the cake. The facts are simple nintendo isnt the master gaming company anymore. Get over it, and go buy a 360.Jesus Christ, people, doesn't ANYBODY use the Enter key on their keyboard, anymore???

[Iceman]

Wow, you must of digged pretty deep to find this...

[Iconoclast]

I get pretty bored, so I look through all threads in forums I moderate to search for any threads or posts that should be deleted or edited when I have nothing better to do.

[chaos master]

Jesus Christ, people, doesn't ANYBODY use the Enter key on their keyboard, anymore???

Uh...please try to stay on topic, Icono.

[Iconoclast]

Uh...please try to stay on topic, Icono.Shut up. You're not the moderator here. I am in no way harming CoolROM.com or its users by reviving dead threads. I have the freedom of speech and accept the right to complain about whatever I feel like. The only reason you say that is to feel like you're in charge of me. The joy it must be for you to be a moderator.

[Rivaan]

Wow. Some of the posts of one or two users in this thread were extremely stupid and narrow-minded..

A funny video on the console wars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJw9sbOTsc

The solution is so easy.. buy all three. Go to the game store and look at ALL sections to choose what game you want.

Nintendo tends to focus on more family- / young teenager- orientated games, whereas Sony and Microsoft are more for the gamer with a matured mind (and higher attention span, with all those RPGs and things).

If I were a member back when this thread was active, I could have found something stupid about Nintendo that infamous couldn't argue with.. Their 1.5Gb mini-DVDs :p I mean wth? Why not normal-capacity DVDs instead of 1/3 of the Xbox and PS2's disc space?

Oh well. I got all 3 next-gen consoles, and I'm gonna do it again too with the next-next-gens. XD

[Iconoclast]

Yeah, I know you mean me and chaos master, or someone else.

[Rivaan]

Well I wasn't gonna say anything... :rolleyes:

Nah, it's not you guys :p But going over this entire thread, I almost started resenting Nintendo! Thank God my senses kicked in.

The following video helped. It's 8 minutes long and it really shows what we can expect from the 3 consoles. It just reaffirmed my will to get all 3 of the machines.

You will have to put up with the bad European accent, but I found it alright to listen to (Hallo 3.. LOL! :D).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1qmosEktIM&NR

EDIT: To make it clear, it was the obnoxious views of Infamous and Fantasymoon that I didn't like.