Xbox Emulation

[Iconoclast]

I hear there is a legal way to get Xbox ROMs. I have an emulator, but when it starts mentioning ISOs and XBEs (Xbox Executables), I have no idea what they're talking about. I know it's legal...I saw it before. Does anyone know a way? I think you have to get it from the game disc or something.

[Mjshl2]

Its legal if you have the game I suppose, but that doesnt matter anyway they dont work and probably wont for along while.

[Iconoclast]

Yes, I know. But I don't like to go out to the living room and use the Xbox for reasons I won't share. I also hear that the requirements for Xbox emulation on PC are very high on your PC. But I have NVidia, Pentium III, minimum requirements met. I would just like to see how I can get the ROMs...from your Xbox CD, I suppose. But when I look at its contents, I see no ROMs, but a bunch of crap files that seem to have no relevance to ROMs. So I would still like to know how to get Xbox ROMs legally.

[Mjshl2]

Well if I remember correctly there is a program that you need that helps you see the xbox discs, you will be able to rip them, but none of them are working at all.
Doesnt matter how high end your PC is so you will be waiting awhile to play them on your pc.

[Iconoclast]

Well if I remember correctly there is a program that you need that helps you see the xbox discs, you will be able to rip them, but none of them are working at all.
Doesnt matter how high end your PC is so you will be waiting awhile to play them on your pc.Aw, come on. My mom plays Xbox 360 game, Oblivion, on her PC until we got an Xbox 360 just to make it easier. But my PC is relatively...yeah. You're probably right; I don't have much to brag about with this computer here. It's pretty standard for emulation...above-average, maybe. Fairly good piece of crap. So, if it seems like too much trouble, I won't insist on you telling me how to get Xbox ROMs, then.

But I will say this much. Both my parents are able to read Xbox game discs. I couldn't because I only had a CD-ROM and CD-RW compatible CD drive. But they had DVD-ROM compatible drives, so they could read it. So if that makes it easier...I don't know. I hear that it is rather complicated. Still, if it's not too much trouble, I would like to know.

[Fierce Deity]

To the extent of my knowledge, you can read both XBOX and GC games with a DVD emulator. Not PS2 though. Anyhow, get a program like Alcohol 120%, and use that to rip the ISO, then create a virtual drive and mount the ISO there. You should be able to play it with the emulator if the emulator works right. I'd give a link for Alcohol 120%, but I am having problems at home right now, so I'm not even on my own pc...anyhow, I hope that helps!

[Iconoclast]

I don't know what 'mount' means, and I have no idea how you can create a new drive. I don't know where to get any of this stuff, including Alchohol 120%. Could you give a step-by-step for me?

Example:

Get a life.
Be prepared.
Just DO the damn thing, already!
Oh, and here's a few download links...they are invisible.

[chaos master]

I don't know what 'mount' means, and I have no idea how you can create a new drive. I don't know where to get any of this stuff, including Alchohol 120%. Could you give a step-by-step for me?

Example:

Get a life.
Be prepared.
Just DO the damn thing, already!
Oh, and here's a few download links...they are invisible.
Ask someone to get you a link to the trial or pay through the nose for it, just get it! (Or use the free but not as good DAEMON Tools)

I have a juggernaut PC, as you may know, and it can emulate Dreamcast fairly well with a 3.5 GHz processor and 1024 MB of RAM. However, it is really not able to emulate it for hours and hours without the room being cold enough so that it won't overheat and stuff. Xbox would probably be a real challenge to emulate even with the top-of-the-line PC's, so be wary of that.

This is because the games were not meant to be played on the PC, so it is very inefficient most of the time. For example, Sonic Adventure for the PC can be run on a minimum of 128MB RAM and blah blah blah, but if you play Sonic Adventure, the same game, on a Dreamcast emulator, it will be much more difficult for your PC to do. The PC games are designed (or should be designed) to make maximal use of the PC's resources, so they are more efficient.

Anyhoo, you mount the ISO image onto a virtual drive (which is a fake drive made by a program) so that your computer thinks that the disc is in a drive where it can be read. Then, you start an executable or emulator or whatever to start it up and the PC will use stuff from its memory and the ISO, just like how you need a disc for some games you install. Making a virtual drive is easy with both programs, DAEMON and Alchohol. Your virtual drives come up under My Computer, just like physical drives.


Xbox, Xbox 360, and Gamecube discs are written the opposite way of standard discs, so I don't know how to read them without modifying a disc drive, which is kinda extreme unless you have an extra one laying around (preferably external.)

Why won't you go to your living room to play Xbox? I have to go into a dingy basement that smells funny to play Xbox (or any console, for that matter....) I DO prefer having games on my computer sometimes because my monitor display them in high definition and the games are all in one place, so I don't have to bother with CD changing much.

So, Iconoclast, do not get your hopes up just yet. You can certainly get some games, but you ain't gonna play them on your PC just yet. I think I saw an Xbox ISO for Sonic Riders before with a HUGE file size. I heard that some emulator can emulate Halo and Turok, but I don't know about it. It is on emulator-zone if you want it.


ICONOCLAST!! Was this explanation helpful? yes/no

[Kameo]

Forget about PS2, NGC and X-Box emulation, there's no emulator so far that can run these Games decently. Just creating a virtual image of those Games quite don't cut it, it's not like a PC and a X-Box have the same architecture, U still need some emulator to get it to run. Or did U think all of those people would have bought an X-Box if those Games could be run on a PC that easily??

U need a emulator, and so far there is none that actually works...

[Iconoclast]

That did not help. I am not an LA student like all of you here at CoolROM (learning ability, not Los Angeles)! I am LD, and cannot understand these instructions. Sorry, but that is my honest answer to yoru question.

Long explanations tend to tire and confuse people. Keep them short and mostly insocial.
You did not number and shorten your steps like the example I gave.
I already said I don't konw what 'mount' means.
WTH? You say mount the ISO image, and I have no idea what you're talking about. You never said how to get it or anything about it. You just skipped to mounting it, whatever that means.Well, why do they have that crap at emulator-zone.com if they don't work? One of them converts XBEs to Windows Executables (EXEs). The other emulates it in a standard way. Yet neither of these two emulators will work properly?

Maybe I should just stick to what FD and Kameo are saying then? There's a reason that the Xbox was made, and that's to play Xbox games. Why bother playing them on my PC, then? If you truly believe this, Kameo, then I give up.

[pizzaman]

That did not help. I am not an LA student like all of you here at CoolROM (learning ability, not Los Angeles)! I am LD, and cannot understand these instructions. Sorry, but that is my honest answer to yoru question.

Long explanations tend to tire and confuse people. Keep them short and mostly insocial.
You did not number and shorten your steps like the example I gave.
I already said I don't konw what 'mount' means.
WTH? You say mount the ISO image, and I have no idea what you're talking about. You never said how to get it or anything about it. You just skipped to mounting it, whatever that means.Well, why do they have that crap at emulator-zone.com if they don't work? One of them converts XBEs to Windows Executables (EXEs). The other emulates it in a standard way. Yet neither of these two emulators will work properly?

Maybe I should just stick to what FD and Kameo are saying then? There's a reason that the Xbox was made, and that's to play Xbox games. Why bother playing them on my PC, then? If you truly believe this, Kameo, then I give up.
An ISO image is the CD, on your computer. You can use Nero, or other programs to burn ISO images to CDs and play them with the actual CD. If you don't want to waste a CD, you can use Daemon tools, or Alcohol to 'mount' ISO images on a vertual drive. A vertual drive is a CD/DVD drive that is not actually installed on your computer, it's virtual. You can make as many as you want. And you can 'mount' the images on those drives, and play them without the CD.
Hope that helps.

[Iconoclast]

You have helped me understand ISO files. I knew that these files are required for making XBE ROMs, but I did not know that Nero could burn ISO images. So if I understood you correctly, you are saying that I can open Nero and burn an ISO image, as if I were buring a CD, combining the CD contents and use the ISO image to help make an XBE ROM?

As for mounting and that alternate method you mentioned, I don't understand. But I'm not worried about that. My old PC has Nero, and I can get it on this one. I don't know what you mean by wasting a CD.

[pizzaman]

You have helped me understand ISO files. I knew that these files are required for making XBE ROMs, but I did not know that Nero could burn ISO images. So if I understood you correctly, you are saying that I can open Nero and burn an ISO image, as if I were buring a CD, combining the CD contents and use the ISO image to help make an XBE ROM?

As for mounting and that alternate method you mentioned, I don't understand. But I'm not worried about that. My old PC has Nero, and I can get it on this one. I don't know what you mean by wasting a CD.
You cannot make a ROM with an ISO. The ISO should be the ROM. That is how it works with the PSX. You go( I'll use the ePSXe emu as an example ) ePSXe/File/Run ISO/So-and-so.ISO and the game starts up. You can, however, make an exact copy of the CD using the ISO. That is what I mean by burning the ISO to a disk.

About the mounting, I'll explain it in a different way. If you don't want to burn the ISO image to a disk, you can play it directly from your computer. When you mount the ISO on a virtual drive, the drive acts like a real CD/DVD drive and plays whatever is on the ISO. It is simply used so that you don't have to insert a real disk into the HDD. You can play it directly from your computer without being woried that the disk will be scratched.

[Iconoclast]

A reminder: I'm not emulating the PSX, and I never will be. I am emulating the Xbox. So if that makes a difference in your instructions, tell me.

[chaos master]

A reminder: I'm not emulating the PSX, and I never will be. I am emulating the Xbox. So if that makes a difference in your instructions, tell me.
no you ain't emulating the Xbox! at least, not yet. I think they put the not finished emulators on incase people want to inker with them or to give hope that progress is happening.

if you got anymore questions, then ask ME. I KNOW!!! PICK ME, MR. MAN!!

[chaos master]

That did not help. I am not an LA student like all of you here at CoolROM (learning ability, not Los Angeles)! I am LD, and cannot understand these instructions. Sorry, but that is my honest answer to yoru question.

Long explanations tend to tire and confuse people. Keep them short and mostly insocial. You did not number and shorten your steps like the example I gave.
I already said I don't konw what 'mount' means.
WTH? You say mount the ISO image, and I have no idea what you're talking about. You never said how to get it or anything about it. You just skipped to mounting it, whatever that means.


how do you think the "....for Dummies" books became popular, then???

[Iconoclast]

no you ain't emulating the Xbox! at least, not yet. I think they put the not finished emulators on incase people want to inker with them or to give hope that progress is happening.

if you got anymore questions, then ask ME. I KNOW!!! PICK ME, MR. MAN!!OK, Mr. Woman. Why the hell would they want to do that? Are you assuming that they are doing this, or do you know that both emulators provided are trash and intentionally programmed to 'inker' us?

[Iconoclast]

how do you think the "....for Dummies" books became popular, then???Look your instructions were not for dummies or normal beginners who don't understand what 'mount' means or anything you just said. I couldn't understand your instructions not because I'm retarded (maybe that too, you think), but because you are not a very good teacher. Think about those four things I pointed out...they were necessary. There is nothing dummyish or whatever about them, they are for all people, and you need to learn how to teach properly.

[chaos master]

OK, Mr. Woman. Why the hell would they want to do that? Are you assuming that they are doing this, or do you know that both emulators provided are trash and intentionally programmed to 'inker' us?
inker means to dance in Swahili, but I digress....

I ASusmsmsuueee that, because why else would they put up the non-finished product? Maybe someone knows about this stuff and will offer to help the emulator development team. They are not necessarily trash, just not operational yet.

[chaos master]

Look your instructions were not for dummies or normal beginners who don't understand what 'mount' means or anything you just said. I couldn't understand your instructions not because I'm retarded (maybe that too, you think), but because you are not a very good teacher. Think about those four things I pointed out...they were necessary. There is nothing dummyish or whatever about them, they are for all people, and you need to learn how to teach properly.
so teach me how to teach.

the Dummies books are not for REAL dummies, but for people who do not know about the subject.

"Mr. Woman??" You are a disrespectfully bad socialist.

[Kameo]

The X-Box and NGC emulators were written for other people to have a source they can found their emulator project on, they R not meant to actually emulate something.

Those X-Box ISOz U see floating on the net, they R not to be run on a emulator, they R for modded X-Box's...

[Iconoclast]

I gave you my teaching tips. I don't have time to teach you! Learn, foo! If you've seen me teach before, you can take notes.

OK, Ms. Man. You called me Mr. Man. There is nothing disrespectful!

[Iconoclast]

The X-Box and NGC emulators were written for other people to have a source they can found their emulator project on, they R not meant to actually emulate something.

Those X-Box ISOz U see floating on the net, they R not to be run on a emulator, they R for modded X-Box's...You've got to be kidding...it says emulating... load XBE file! Looks like they can emulate! I'll believe you, though.

What's a modded Xbox?

[Kameo]

It has a chip so it can play copied Games, or Games from another region than Urs...

[chaos master]

You've got to be kidding...it says emulating... load XBE file! Looks like they can emulate! I'll believe you, though.

Looks can be decieving, Iconoclast. Thank you for believing me.

You called me a woman, colonel! I feel betrayed.

[Iconoclast]

Well, actually I was talking to Kameo. Sorry about the other thread, but there are factors to consider.... And, CM, it is possible that you might be right, so don't get me wrong. After all, I can't just assume values for x in y when we say x = y - 6.

[chaos master]

Yes, we must understand each other if we want to argue respectfully. What other thread? Right about what?

[Iconoclast]

I was talking to Kameo, once again. Or at least up to the point in the post where I mentioned your name.

Me and Kameo just had an arguement in some thread...blah. At first, I was afraid the reply I just got done with was too harsh. But he called me dumb, so I didn't hesitate. But...we're about even, or at least with as fair as things get.

[Kameo]

Looks can be decieving, Iconoclast. Thank you for believing me.

You called me a woman, colonel! I feel betrayed.

Well, since U brag so much about Ur PC, prove me wrong, run X-Box and NGC at fullspeed on Ur PC, record it and show it to us. U R the one who's wrong here, try for Urself and U'll see.

If it really was possible to run X-Box on Ur PC it would be all over the X-Box community, ever wondered why it's not?? Same goes for NGC and PS2, it's not possible, yet...

[Iconoclast]

Strange, because my mom had an Xbox 360 game playing well on her PC. Although, it wasn't handled by an emulator. I think it was a PC-designed version, which may explain why. But now that we have an Xbox 360, did she just buy another Xbox formatted copy or was she....

Yeah, CM. Why don't you take some screenshots? Where's the evidence? Film your Xbox gameplay.

[chaos master]

Strange, because my mom had an Xbox 360 game playing well on her PC. Although, it wasn't handled by an emulator. I think it was a PC-designed version, which may explain why. But now that we have an Xbox 360, did she just buy another Xbox formatted copy or was she....

Yeah, CM. Why don't you take some screenshots? Where's the evidence? Film your Xbox gameplay.
What are you talking about? You are so far wrong it's infuriating. I meant that while it looks like Xbox can be emulated now, it can't. I already said it before. I have filmed Dreamcast gameplay, which is kinda like a really weak GCN or Xbox.

[chaos master]

Well, since U brag so much about Ur PC, prove me wrong, run X-Box and NGC at fullspeed on Ur PC, record it and show it to us. U R the one who's wrong here, try for Urself and U'll see.

If it really was possible to run X-Box on Ur PC it would be all over the X-Box community, ever wondered why it's not?? Same goes for NGC and PS2, it's not possible, yet...
what do you mean? I never said you could. You could try to find where I said it, but I didn't say it.

[Amiro22]

I don't think current-gen console emulation is worth it.