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Iconoclast
06-13-2006, 01:57 PM
You all think that Project64 is best. Inarguably, it is, at default. Yet other emulators can do things that Project64 can't, besides support more ROMs.

One of the 20 to 30 Nintendo 64 emulators out there, Corn, is the fastest Nintendo 64 emulator I ever had to witness myself use. At disadvantage, however, the second version of Corn only supports the following Nintendo 64 ROMs:

Bomberman Hero
Chopper Attack
Deadly Arts
Fighting Cup
G.A.S.P.! Fighters NEXTream
Holy Magic Century
Mace: The Dark Age
Mario Kart 64
Olympic Hockey Nagano 98
J-League Perfect Striker
Legend of Zelda, the: Majora's Mask?
Quest 64
Rampage
Sim City 2000
StarFox 64
Super Mario 64
San Francisco Rush
Tetrisphere
Wave Race 64
W. Gretzky's 3D Hockey (+98)That's it. This is a list of ROMs supported by the second version of Corn. Here's a list of ROMs that the first version of Corn supports:

Super Mario 64That's about it, I think. A very unsupporting emulator, Corn is. But for the few ROMs it does support, the emulation speed/FPS will blow your other emulators, even Project64, away. It is...let's look for an honest number...four times as fast as Project64?

The later version of Corn, the slower it is, of course, as support for more ROMs is added. With the first version of Corn playing Super Mario 64, however, the emulation is too fast for anyone to even play the game. I can't see myself jump when I press A, and it's almost impossible to select your file because of how fast it is!

You can download Corn here: http://www.ngemu.com/n64/corn.php?action=download.

In this link, click "Corn 0.2." None of the other versions work; I don't know why. When I download 0.3 or 0.29, it just gives me two executables that don't do a thing. Same thing with emulator-zone.com. If someone could get me a working version of those other two versions...that would be nice.

If any of you people ever see an user whining about their gameplay being slow, don't say they need to get a better PC. Tell them about Corn, as few ROMs as it may support.

chaos master
06-13-2006, 03:24 PM
This is probably because you are running on 128 MB RAM (and possibly your processor is not so good, as well.)

PJ64 runs at a smooth-as-silk 60 fps (with the insignificant miniscule fluxuation, of course) for me on my 256 MB RAM laptop, and it doesn't improve very much on my 1024 MB RAM PC. Even Goldeneye runs at full speed on my laptop.

Since most people have at least 256 MB RAM and a decent processor (standard issue with even the cheap Dell ones) and I think you could supplement a 128 MB RAM block to 256 MB with a $12 128 RAM block (or better yet, go to at least 512 MB), I think PJ64 is the way to go for now. What with the compatibility and simplicity and all.

Did you know Sim City 2000 for N64 was only released in Japan? Interesting....

Nice guide, there.

chaos master
06-13-2006, 08:21 PM
Okay, I realise that Corn (WHO THOUGHT OF THAT BRILLIANT NAME?!?) is faster, but you do not need faster when you have enough power to run PJ64, an emulator that supports more, at full speed with no problem.

Iconoclast
06-13-2006, 08:29 PM
I didn't say my PC was slow. In Project64, I can emulate Super Mario 64 at...I can't remember, 200 to 300 FPS? If I'm really on crack, it's 500, but I don't know. I have NVidia GeForce FX 5200, suggested video card for Project64.

Anyway, Corn is four times faster than Project64 always...except when you enable sound. That syncs the audio to video at a constant 60 FPS.

The reason I introduced Corn to you all is so you know better than to tell users to get a better PC when it emulates ROMs too slow. Even a DOS-designed PC with SOME kind of graphics card and DirectX installed could emulate Super Mario 64 relatively well. It is for users with slow PCs, or users who just are curious at just how fast they can REALLY play Super Mario 64. For either of these, chaos master, that is the purpose of this thread.

Project64 has a strict speed limiter. Not perfect, but pretty close. All the other emulators use loose methods of limiting the FPS to 60, and it ranges from about 57 to 62. In Project64, 59.96 to 60.02. Pretty good emulator, but Corn is better for slow PCs and users who are just interested in what it's like to emulate so fast.

chaos master
06-13-2006, 08:31 PM
Files needed to play Corn 0.29 or 0.30-

I think you must make the .2 files join forces with the other variants for them to work. IDK how.....

Iconoclast
06-13-2006, 08:31 PM
Okay, I realise that Corn (WHO THOUGHT OF THAT BRILLIANT NAME?!?) is faster, but you do not need faster when you have enough power to run PJ64, an emulator that supports more, at full speed with no problem.Yes, well, there are users unlike you who don't have a perfect PC and everything always working out for them. I have seen such users suffer in stress. Simply put, you are lucky that you have a good laptop. But do not take pride in luck; this thread is for users with slow PCs again. But for you, I just thought you might like to see the speed 4 times faster.

Iconoclast
06-13-2006, 08:33 PM
Files needed to play Corn 0.29 or 0.30-

I think you must make the .2 files join forces with the other variants for them to work. IDK how.....I see you like games. Heh. No, computers aren't magic. I hate it when websites give me incomplete software packages, specifically emulators. Why don't they just give us the BIOSes when they won't even give us the ROMs, anyway?
*Edit: I take that question back....

chaos master
06-13-2006, 08:41 PM
I see you like games. Heh. No, computers aren't magic. I hate it when websites give me incomplete software packages, specifically emulators. Why don't they just give us the BIOSes when they won't even give us the ROMs, anyway?
I like games? Well, duh!!!!
Just like you put on a plug-in, maybe you put together the files. Maybe it has to do with the other EXE's in Corn 2.....hmmm...

Dude, my laptop is standard 256 MB (today's minimum for most) and it has an average processor. It is an average machine and it can do PJ64 nearly perfectly.

Iconoclast
06-13-2006, 08:45 PM
I like games? Well, duh!!!!
Just like you put on a plug-in, maybe you put together the files. Maybe it has to do with the other EXE's in Corn 2.....hmmm...

Dude, my laptop is standard 256 MB (today's minimum for most) and it has an average processor. It is an average machine and it can do PJ64 nearly perfectly.Congratulations. But your PC is not my brother's PC, so this is just for users who have slow PCs. Do I sense a tendency of liking to disprove the purpose of threads I create? This is not the only thread I've made that you've sided against me on.

I have AMD Athlon XP 2600+ processor.

chaos master
06-13-2006, 08:51 PM
Okay, I will side with you, then.
'Athlong' lol.
All hail Corn the speed demon. (I never thought I'd say something so absurd, but oh well...)
It's the only emulator to supplement my need for speed.

How about an article on TWRwin? Huh? That sounds pretty cool.

Iconoclast
06-13-2006, 08:55 PM
What? TRWin? Where is this article? TRWin is at the bottom of the Nintendo 64 list, as in emulator-zone.com says it's the worst. I've tested all of the emulators my PC could run, and it is really...not that good. Where is this article?

chaos master
06-13-2006, 08:58 PM
I meant you make an article explaining it and what it can do....
Sort of a way to poke fun at people for trying. (Sorry, had to get that out of my system)

Fierce Deity
06-14-2006, 06:23 AM
TR has a great Video plugin. It emulates nearly everything perfectly, the one I have, even better than Rice's. The only problem is that is fails and PJ64 crashes after like 2 minutes. As for PJ64, it runs perfect on my machine with only 256MB of RAM. If you think it is choppy, Iconoclast, it is probably because you only have 128MB.

Iconoclast
06-14-2006, 02:00 PM
TR has a great Video plugin. It emulates nearly everything perfectly, the one I have, even better than Rice's.Just try saying that again! Surely, you don't really mean that? TRWin just blurs up your graphics while the sound sucks and the default controller configuration is terrible. I just tried it right now. TRWin doesn't use any changeable external plugins, which is what doubles the suckiness. And FD, are you talking about TRWin or TR64? I have all the Nintendo 64 emulators for Windows downloaded except for TRWin up until now. I just tried TRWin, and it...is not good. Take a screenshot of something TRWin's video plugin can do that PJ64's can't. Believe me, there is a reason that it's at the bottom of the list of Nintendo 64 emulators. It just lags behind.The only problem is that is fails and PJ64 crashes after like 2 minutes. As for PJ64, it runs perfect on my machine with only 256MB of RAM. If you think it is choppy, Iconoclast, it is probably because you only have 128MB.No, I don't notice choppiness at all. Just blurry graphics. Use PJ64 to emulate Super Mario 64, and then try using TRWin, and you will see the difference in not only graphics. It emulates it like some compressed, WMV-stretched, video or something.

Unless, this whole time, FD, were you talking about a PLUGIN made by the TR64 team or their emulators TR64 and TRWin?