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Crazed Dragon
06-30-2006, 09:01 PM
anyone who information on FFIII for DS feel free to post it here.
as it is I now little about it but think it well come out around christmas
Fierce Deity
06-30-2006, 09:04 PM
How ar ethey going to add touching feature to it? Or is it just going to be like menu stuff, or something cheesy like that?
Crazed Dragon
06-30-2006, 09:07 PM
How ar ethey going to add touching feature to it? Or is it just going to be like menu stuff, or something cheesy like that? I'm not sure what they're going to do, but i do know it will have touch screen abilityes probaly the cheesy kind
Crazed Dragon
06-30-2006, 09:09 PM
I almost forgot that they did upgrade the graphics I've seen a jap trailer of it did'nt show any game play though...
Fierce Deity
06-30-2006, 09:17 PM
It would be cool if we could get the original formats of games with the editing software. I could "upgrade" all the graphics I wanted to. The ROMs are sorta liek SWFs are for Flash. They are like exported version of the game, wher eit has the gameplay only, not a lot of the other stuff they may hav eused, although some of it is left in.
Crazed Dragon
06-30-2006, 09:19 PM
It would be cool if we could get the original formats of games with the editing software. I could "upgrade" all the graphics I wanted to. The ROMs are sorta liek SWFs are for Flash. They are like exported version of the game, wher eit has the gameplay only, not a lot of the other stuff they may hav eused, although some of it is left in.
that would be cool but we'll just have to wait... if thats even possibal...
Fierce Deity
06-30-2006, 09:29 PM
Well, we'd have to hack Nintendo or something. I am incapable of that. Any voulnteers?
Crazed Dragon
06-30-2006, 09:31 PM
Well, we'd have to hack Nintendo or something. I am incapable of that. Any voulnteers?way over my head but if any dose let me know
thanx
Fierce Deity
06-30-2006, 10:05 PM
Okay. Oooh! While I'm thinking of it, I want to try to get PJ64 1.7!!! brb evry1
Crazed Dragon
06-30-2006, 10:07 PM
Okay. Oooh! While I'm thinking of it, I want to try to get PJ64 1.7!!! brb evry1
I have no idea what that is
pizzaman
06-30-2006, 11:57 PM
Well I just looked, and FF 1 & 2, FF Tactics, and FF 4 are already on GBA. Just FYI.
P.S. Isn't FF 4 the same as FF 3, except in Japanise?
Crazed Dragon
07-01-2006, 12:02 AM
Well I just looked, and FF 1 & 2, FF Tactics, and FF 4 are already on GBA. Just FYI.
P.S. Isn't FF 4 the same as FF 3, except in Japanise?i think you mine ff 3 is the same as ff 6
the ff 3 going on the ds is the jap version one that never been on a north america consele i can't remeber the site but it has a trailer you could find it with google
i cant spell consele i suck at spelling
Fierce Deity
07-01-2006, 12:03 AM
Well I just looked, and FF 1 & 2, FF Tactics, and FF 4 are already on GBA. Just FYI.
P.S. Isn't FF 4 the same as FF 3, except in Japanise?
FF4 is either FF1 or an FF that was never released in the U.S.
Crazed Dragon
07-01-2006, 12:04 AM
the frist choice
Crazed Dragon
07-01-2006, 12:05 AM
the frist choiceoops meant the second one
Fierce Deity
07-01-2006, 12:07 AM
I figured as much. Do you type really fast, or are you foreign? Or do you just suck at grammar, lol....(j/k)
Crazed Dragon
07-01-2006, 12:08 AM
I figured as much. Do you type really fast, or are you foreign? Or do you just suck at grammar, lol....(j/k)the grammer one and spelling..but im good at math...ish
pizzaman
07-01-2006, 12:12 AM
the grammer one and spelling..but im good at math...ish
What's 1289473423047392809432*439289038749037827384702374 839728904?
Crazed Dragon
07-01-2006, 12:13 AM
What's 1289473423047392809432*439289038749037827384702374 839728904?a whole bunch of numbers?"
pizzaman
07-01-2006, 12:14 AM
a whole bunch of numbers?"
That symbol in the middle is a multiplication sign! :nono:
Crazed Dragon
07-01-2006, 12:15 AM
That symbol in the middle is a multiplication sign! :nono:heh didn't see to busy looking at the #s
pizzaman
07-01-2006, 12:20 AM
heh didn't see to busy looking at the #s
Well it's okay. I believe you. Anyways, I need to stop getting people off topic, so go one with your ramble. Oh, but could you make me a list of all the FF games? I always get confused. Oh and put the language next to the name of the game. I mean if you can.
Fierce Deity
07-01-2006, 12:24 AM
What's 1289473423047392809432*439289038749037827384702374 839728904?
56645154050000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000
or 5.664515405 E56
Crazed Dragon
07-01-2006, 12:24 AM
I'll do my best and the will contian just the north america versions and what system there for just give me a few minutes
Crazed Dragon
07-01-2006, 12:30 AM
go to http://www.eyesonff.com/ they seem to have amost everthing on the games
pizzaman
07-01-2006, 12:32 AM
56645154050000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000
or 5.664515405 E56
Silly goose. There is no such thing as an "E" in the middle of a question. :nono:
pizzaman
07-01-2006, 12:33 AM
go to http://www.eyesonff.com/ they seem to have amost everthing on the games
Okay thanks, I'll check it out.
psilonaut
07-01-2006, 03:45 PM
Definatley going to pick this one up.
Rivaan
07-03-2006, 06:44 AM
Well I think someone should post it here. The underlined ones are the American FF 1, 2, and 3. I hope it's not too confusing. The PS and DS games came out a lot later.
NES: FF1(Jap) - NES: FF1(US)
NES: FF2(Jap) - PS1: FF Origins (FF1 + FF2)(US), GBA: FF Dawn of Souls (FF1 + FF2)(US)
NES: FF3(Jap) - DS: (Upcoming game)(US)
SNES: FF4(Jap) - SNES: FF2(US)
SNES: FF5(Jap) - PS1: FF Anthology (FF5 + FF6)(US)
SNES: FF6(Jap) - SNES: FF3(US)
__________________________________________
The FFs go normally from here (number-wise)
And in case people haven't seen it, here is the trailer for the new FF game. It has gameplay footage, and what I REALLY hope are in-game FMVs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyK03P1oZO8
pizzaman
07-03-2006, 03:58 PM
Well I think someone should post it here. The underlined ones are the American FF 1, 2, and 3. I hope it's not too confusing. The PS and DS games came out a lot later.
NES: FF1(Jap) - NES: FF1(US)
NES: FF2(Jap) - PS1: FF Origins (FF1 + FF2)(US), GBA: FF Dawn of Souls (FF1 + FF2)(US)
NES: FF3(Jap) - DS: (Upcoming game)(US)
SNES: FF4(Jap) - SNES: FF2(US)
SNES: FF5(Jap) - PS1: FF Anthology (FF5 + FF6)(US)
SNES: FF6(Jap) - SNES: FF3(US)
So
FF1,
FF2,
FF3( Soon to come ),
FF5, and
FF6 are in English?
Crazed Dragon
07-03-2006, 04:14 PM
So
FF1,
FF2,
FF3( Soon to come ),
FF5, and
FF6 are in English?couldn't of put it better my self
Rivaan
07-03-2006, 04:34 PM
So
FF1,
FF2,
FF3( Soon to come ),
FF5, and
FF6 are in English?
Once 3 comes out, then they will ALL be English (FF4 was English too. It was FF2 in the US).
Crazed Dragon
07-03-2006, 04:39 PM
Once 3 comes out, then they will ALL be English (FF4 was English too. It was FF2 in the US).ff4 the jap version came out on gba in english
pizzaman
07-04-2006, 12:02 AM
Once 3 comes out, then they will ALL be English (FF4 was English too. It was FF2 in the US).
Wait so FF2 is the same as FF4? :confused:
Rivaan
07-04-2006, 09:35 AM
Damn.. It's quite confusing to explain :o Um..
Out of the older games, only 3 were released outside of Japan at first. They were FF1 (on the NES), FF4 (on the SNES) and FF6 (on the SNES). Because they are a weird company, Squaresoft decided to call FF4 FF2 (since it was the second Western FF release). Then the third release (FF6) was called FF3. It was only later that the real ones that were missed out were brought over.
I really hope that explains it. If it doesn't, I dunno how else to put it lol.
pizzaman
07-04-2006, 01:16 PM
Damn.. It's quite confusing to explain :o Um..
Out of the older games, only 3 were released outside of Japan at first. They were FF1 (on the NES), FF4 (on the SNES) and FF6 (on the SNES). Because they are a weird company, Squaresoft decided to call FF4 FF2 (since it was the second Western FF release). Then the third release (FF6) was called FF3. It was only later that the real ones that were missed out were brought over.
I really hope that explains it. If it doesn't, I dunno how else to put it lol.
Oh well I guess I understand. The gameplay is all different though, right? It's just the names that are messed up?
Rivaan
07-04-2006, 02:02 PM
The ones that are released in the US are the same as the ones released in Japan - it's just the names that are different. (the remakes later on have better graphics though.)
pizzaman
07-04-2006, 02:54 PM
The ones that are released in the US are the same as the ones released in Japan - it's just the names that are different. (the remakes later on have better graphics though.)
Oh okay. Now for a different question, which ones are 2-D and which ones are 3-D? Is everything under FFVII 2-D?
Crazed Dragon
07-04-2006, 03:13 PM
Oh okay. Now for a different question, which ones are 2-D and which ones are 3-D? Is everything under FFVII 2-D?every thing is 2-d under ff7 right now as far as i know but when ff3 for ds comes out it will be 3-d
pizzaman
07-04-2006, 03:17 PM
every thing is 2-d under ff7 right now as far as i know but when ff3 for ds comes out it will be 3-d
3-D? Well that sounds interesting. I'm currently playing FFIX to see if it's as good as some people say.
Crazed Dragon
07-04-2006, 03:21 PM
3-D? Well that sounds interesting. I'm currently playing FFIX to see if it's as good as some people say.i found the ff3 trailer here is a link
http://media.ds.ign.com/media/707/707320/vids_1.html
pizzaman
07-04-2006, 03:37 PM
i found the ff3 trailer here is a link
http://media.ds.ign.com/media/707/707320/vids_1.html
Looks nice. :D
I might just have to get that. First I must get a Nintendo DS, though. :(
Crazed Dragon
07-04-2006, 03:38 PM
Looks nice. :D
I might just have to get that. First I must get a Nintendo DS, though. :(yes i know i can't wait for it
the ds price has gone down a bit now and they made it slimer i have the bigger one
Rivaan
07-04-2006, 04:04 PM
And in case people haven't seen it, here is the trailer for the new FF game. It has gameplay footage, and what I REALLY hope are in-game FMVs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyK03P1oZO8
I also linked to that movie on Youtube earlier :D (I like watching things on youtube :))
You should get a DS. Not just for this game either. I got a DS Lite yesterday and I'm HOOKED! I got Trauma Center: Under the Knife, by Atlus. Atlus tend to not ship their games for too long a time, so it may become quite rare. If that game interests you, you might want to get it soon. It's really fun though to operate on people! FINALLY.. I'm on the other end of the scalpel.. :devil:
FF9 was my favourite FF. It had good graphics with more of an old FF feel to it than the other 3-d ones. This is probably since it was set in olden type of times rather than the future as well as having disproportional characters (which is a plus for me. I perfer it to the anatomically "perfect" FF10).
I am so excited about FF3 :) Let's hope it's not too long for the UK release.
Crazed Dragon
07-04-2006, 04:10 PM
oops... didn't see your link Rivaan...
but it good to post it again every once in a while because most people don't read the whole thread( sometimes i don't)
ff6 is my fav follow right by ff7
pizzaman
07-04-2006, 04:14 PM
Oh lol I didn't see the link either. I like FFX the most though. FFX-2 was WAY worse then FFX, IMHO.
Crazed Dragon
07-04-2006, 04:15 PM
Oh lol I didn't see the link either. I like FFX the most though. FFX-2 was WAY worse then FFX, IMHO.ya ffx2 did look good to me ether...
still favent played ffx i want to and i might own it soon
Rivaan
07-04-2006, 04:25 PM
It seems nobody saw my link :( But the important thing is that you guys have seen the trailer :D
FFX-2 wasn't even a proper FF in my opinion.. It was missing a lot of aspects. I have it, but I couldn't get past 30 minutes of playing (through lack of tolerance for it). My cousin has and loves FFXI. It seems like a good game (it's just those fees that deter me from getting it..). I liked FFX, despite the character models :P
No matter how much I like a game, I have a very bad habit.. I get to the final disc, the final boss, etc. and stop playing.. I got to disc 3 of FFVII and stopped, disc 4 of FFVIII, up to the last Sin battle in FFX. Luckily I completed 9 which may also be why it's my fave. Or maybe I completed it because it was my fave.. who knows :o
Crazed Dragon
07-04-2006, 04:30 PM
the last boss in ff7 is so dam easy!!! at least for me
the weird thing ia the boss right be for him the frist time i fought it i used one party the second time i use 2 to fight it weird...
pizzaman
07-04-2006, 04:39 PM
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pizzaman
07-04-2006, 04:40 PM
the last boss in ff7 is so dam easy!!! at least for me
the weird thing ia the boss right be for him the frist time i fought it i used one party the second time i use 2 to fight it weird...
The FFX boss was hard! At least at first, then I went to train, and I beat him easily.
P.S. Tidus, Kamereijsnfisjehf( The big blue guy ), and Aaron all do 9999 damage.
Crazed Dragon
07-04-2006, 04:43 PM
WTH! Someone deleted my post?!
Anyway, what I said was that I didn't see your link either, Ravin. My favorite FF game, however, is FFX, but FFX-2 was way worse, IMHO.what are you talking about your post is still in here..
pizzaman
07-04-2006, 04:44 PM
what are you talking about your post is still in here..
Ohhh, my bad. Didn't see that. :o
Crazed Dragon
07-04-2006, 04:47 PM
Ohhh, my bad. Didn't see that. :othats ok we all make mistakes...sometimes costing people lives...it a joke...
Crazed Dragon
07-22-2006, 03:24 PM
I was bored and added a poll...
pizzaman
07-22-2006, 03:29 PM
Some other random thing I'm saying about it. :D
Crazed Dragon
07-22-2006, 03:30 PM
Some other random thing I'm saying about it. :Dso you don't have a ds ay? well if you do pick one up ask me and i'll tell you some games i enjoy on it
pizzaman
07-22-2006, 03:33 PM
so you don't have a ds ay? well if you do pick one up ask me and i'll tell you some games i enjoy on it
Well I'd rather wait for the emu to work so I don't have to buy one. It's like a hundred bucks!
Crazed Dragon
07-22-2006, 03:34 PM
Well I'd rather wait for the emu to work so I don't have to buy one. It's like a hundred bucks!...your point? its one of the cheapest in systems in stores right now other than the GBA
pizzaman
07-22-2006, 03:35 PM
...your point? its one of the cheapest in systems in stores right now other than the GBA
The point is that I don't want to blow a hundred bucks, plus money for games. Games are getting too expensive nowadays.
Crazed Dragon
07-22-2006, 03:41 PM
The point is that I don't want to blow a hundred bucks, plus money for games. Games are getting too expensive nowadays.you think so? with your job buying a game sytem and a game every once in a while should be that hard and it better to buy the game it show your respected to the game and the people who work hard to make it
pizzaman
07-22-2006, 03:51 PM
you think so? with your job buying a game sytem and a game every once in a while should be that hard and it better to buy the game it show your respected to the game and the people who work hard to make it
Well I do get 250 bucks a week, but my dad puts it in my bank acount and leaves me about 20 bucks a week for myself. It's enough for me, I can't use the money in my bank account until I'm 18, or if I need something that he thinks is worth it. He doesn't let me spend that much money on games, so I'll just wait for now.
Rivaan
07-22-2006, 03:54 PM
Paying for it will allow you to curl up in bed at 3am, playing your DS XD You can't really curl up with a PC :p Plus, the DS is still in production, as are the games; it wouldn't be right to pirate a live console (well.. in my opinion).
Crazed Dragon
07-22-2006, 03:55 PM
Paying for it will allow you to curl up in bed at 3am, playing your DS XD You can't really curl up with a PC :p Plus, the DS is still in production, as are the games; it wouldn't be right to pirate a live console (well.. in my opinion).good opinoin, you made me picture some one curling up in bed with a pc lol :p though you maybe able to do it with a laptop
pizzaman
07-22-2006, 04:19 PM
Paying for it will allow you to curl up in bed at 3am, playing your DS XD You can't really curl up with a PC :p Plus, the DS is still in production, as are the games; it wouldn't be right to pirate a live console (well.. in my opinion).
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Well I'll pass the time by playing on my PS2 games. :D
Crazed Dragon
07-22-2006, 04:22 PM
I wonder if they'll add some new jobs to this one...and i didn't like the monster rate in the nes one they don't pop up enough to level up well and when they do pop up they were a bit troo strong after a few fights my guy be tiered out and that makes it hard to get threw dungons...
Rivaan
07-22-2006, 10:44 PM
I've just uploaded the 2nd FF3 trailer on youtube, if people haven't seen it yet :D Feel free to leave comments there or rate it if you want. Don't have to though :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPpcdv2KqJY
EDIT: It has gameplay footage in this trailer and I think it looks awesome! I am definitely getting it, for sure!
Crazed Dragon
07-22-2006, 10:50 PM
I've just uploaded the 2nd FF3 trailer on youtube, if people haven't seen it yet :D Feel free to leave comments there or rate it if you want. Don't have to though :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPpcdv2KqJY
EDIT: It has gameplay footage in this trailer and I think it looks awesome! I am definitely getting it, for sure!ERR!!! I can't wait for it to come out!!!
so this time you start of with just one person insted of four...
graphic are great and they still got the great victory music in there :D
chaos master
07-23-2006, 09:26 AM
good opinoin, you made me picture some one curling up in bed with a pc lol :p though you maybe able to do it with a laptop
Yes, curling up with a laptop does work, but you have to be more careful....
chaos master
07-23-2006, 09:35 AM
The point is that I don't want to blow a hundred bucks, plus money for games. Games are getting too expensive nowadays.
....nowadays...?
Back in the days of the NES, its games cost $30-$50 (or something similar) just like the games of today. I think Nintendo sold the N64 for $200 at release, and its games were also around the same prices as today's games. My point being that games have always been this expensive for the most part (the part I've witnessed). Yet now next gen games are getting a bit more expensive, so maybe they will be the most expensive as of yet.
Maybe I'll check out this game.
Crazed Dragon
07-23-2006, 02:52 PM
Yes, curling up with a laptop does work, but you have to be more careful....heh ya your right gota make sure you don't snap you fingers when it closes on you and if you have it pluged in at the time that you don't tangel your self in the cord witch could hurt you or damge the cord
heh ya your right gota make sure you don't snap you fingers when it closes on you and if you have it pluged in at the time that you don't tangel your self in the cord witch could hurt you or damge the cordOr drool on it.
Crazed Dragon
07-23-2006, 02:53 PM
....nowadays...?
Back in the days of the NES, its games cost $30-$50 (or something similar) just like the games of today. I think Nintendo sold the N64 for $200 at release, and its games were also around the same prices as today's games. My point being that games have always been this expensive for the most part (the part I've witnessed). Yet now next gen games are getting a bit more expensive, so maybe they will be the most expensive as of yet.
Maybe I'll check out this game.that ture growing up i notice there baseicly the same price except for the concels they keep going up witch sucks
Fierce Deity
07-23-2006, 02:55 PM
Well I do get 250 bucks a week, but my dad puts it in my bank acount and leaves me about 20 bucks a week for myself. It's enough for me, I can't use the money in my bank account until I'm 18, or if I need something that he thinks is worth it. He doesn't let me spend that much money on games, so I'll just wait for now.
I don't have a bank account, and I don't get 20 bucks a week. I have a piece of bread. It keeps me warm at night. Or something.
Crazed Dragon
07-23-2006, 02:59 PM
I don't have a bank account, and I don't get 20 bucks a week. I have a piece of bread. It keeps me warm at night. Or something.heh when schools on since i go to an allternat school(not ones for retards) I can do this work program witch you can make up to $25 a day depending on how will you work its great and during the summer for some money i work with under my dad for $5 bucks a hour. I choose 5$ so i didn't have to do realy hard work just the simpler stuff it my summer vacation i don't want to work too hard
Rivaan
07-23-2006, 03:23 PM
that ture growing up i notice there baseicly the same price except for the concels they keep going up witch sucks
Consoles' prices go up?
Back when the PS1 was released in the UK, it cost £500 (about $900). I think they are getting cheaper :p
Brand new PS2, Xbox, and Gamcube games are all £10 ($18) cheaper than brand new N64 games were.. N64 games were £50. That's now the price for Xbox 360 games.
The consoles used to be really expensive. Don't forget that the value of money is less now than it was before.. £100 back in the day is worth a lot more than £100 today, so a £50 N64 game back then would be probably £60 now or something.
Crazed Dragon
07-23-2006, 03:35 PM
Consoles' prices go up?
Back when the PS1 was released in the UK, it cost £500 (about $900). I think they are getting cheaper :p
Brand new PS2, Xbox, and Gamcube games are all £10 ($18) cheaper than brand new N64 games were.. N64 games were £50. That's now the price for Xbox 360 games.
The consoles used to be really expensive. Don't forget that the value of money is less now than it was before.. £100 back in the day is worth a lot more than £100 today, so a £50 N64 game back then would be probably £60 now or something.$900 for a ps1!!! $18 for a new GameCube, PS2 and Xbox game!!! dude where you live must rock! when the ps1 came out it was nowhere near $900 here you got ripped off there, but the price of the new games that is ****ing aswome CM was right here new games range from 30-60 dollars anything less than that is crap here
Rivaan
07-23-2006, 03:47 PM
Whoops. I don't think I made my point clearly :o
I meant that new GC, PS2, and Xbox games are $18 cheaper than new N64 ones were. But still.. I don't find them too expensive, although in America it may be. They are about $65-70. But N64 games used to be about $85-90.
That being said, I have found MANY good games in stores for bargain prices :D Like $20 for a new game. I got King of Fighters: Maximum Impact (new) and Rumble Roses (new), both for $18 each :)
Crazed Dragon
07-23-2006, 03:51 PM
Whoops. I don't think I made my point clearly :o
I meant that new GC, PS2, and Xbox games are $18 cheaper than new N64 ones were. But still.. I don't find them too expensive, although in America it may be. They are about $65-70. But N64 games used to be about $85-90.
That being said, I have found MANY good games in stores for bargain prices :D Like $20 for a new game. I got King of Fighters: Maximum Impact (new) and Rumble Roses (new), both for $18 each :)ah that alittle better but $900 dollars for a ps1 when it first came out is still a little hard to chew. I remeber i got paper mario when it first came out for my birthday and it was between $50 to $60 the same proce as games are now, but i guess in other parts of the thing are different
ok now i think we have settled this let get back to FF3 for DS
pizzaman
07-23-2006, 03:56 PM
I've just uploaded the 2nd FF3 trailer on youtube, if people haven't seen it yet :D Feel free to leave comments there or rate it if you want. Don't have to though :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPpcdv2KqJY
EDIT: It has gameplay footage in this trailer and I think it looks awesome! I am definitely getting it, for sure!
Holy smokes! Those graphics look as good/better then FFVII. I'm getting this game for sure. :D
It does have a good storyline, doesn't it?
pizzaman
07-23-2006, 03:58 PM
....nowadays...?
Back in the days of the NES, its games cost $30-$50 (or something similar) just like the games of today. I think Nintendo sold the N64 for $200 at release, and its games were also around the same prices as today's games. My point being that games have always been this expensive for the most part (the part I've witnessed). Yet now next gen games are getting a bit more expensive, so maybe they will be the most expensive as of yet.
Maybe I'll check out this game.
Not just games, but the systems too. I only have arounbd 400 bucks at home now, and I don't want to spend too much, because I'm already planning on using some for a new HDD.
Crazed Dragon
07-23-2006, 03:58 PM
Holy smokes! Those graphics look as good/better then FFVII. I'm getting this game for sure. :D
It does have a good storyline, doesn't it?well since the origenal was for nes they would of diffently imprve the story line, like we already know that insted of staring of with all 4 people you stant of as just one
chaos master
07-23-2006, 05:14 PM
heh ya your right gota make sure you don't snap you fingers when it closes on you and if you have it pluged in at the time that you don't tangel your self in the cord witch could hurt you or damge the cord
I was thinking more along the lines of dropping it off the bed and stuff.
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