The world is ****ed up

[pizzaman]

I can't believe the stuff that happens. Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who cares. People don't even care about their parents and treat them unrespectfully. Listen folks, your family is all you got. You might think that your friends are more important, but they aren't going to be there for you all the time. You can get new friends, but you can't get a new family. People take things for granted way to often.

This is what happend to my cousin's cousin. He and his wife were not living together because they had problems. They've been married for one year now, and they have a two week old baby. A week ago, or something like that, they went at 3 AM ( IDK, and neither does anyone else why they were out so late in such a hidden place. ) and he stabbed her, 7 times. She died. He confessed, and is awaiting his sentence. Their family was one of the nicest people in the world. IDK how he ending up doing something like that. Now he riuned his life, his daughter's life, and his and her family's lives.

This was in the newspaper some time back. A guy left his son to his neighbor, as his neighbor and him were really good friends. His neighbor always babysat the guy's son, who was like 8. Some time later, they discover that the nieghbor was molesting that boy. They brought him to court, and guess how much time that guy got in jail? He was sentenced to three years! Do you guys think that three years in jail is enough to cover up someone's life being destroyed? How will that boy be when he grows up? The dad came up to the neighbor and shot him.

[Crazed Dragon]

I can't believe the stuff that happens. Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who cares. People don't even care about their parents and treat them unrespectfully. Listen folks, your family is all you got. You might think that your friends are more important, but they aren't going to be there for you all the time. You can get new friends, but you can't get a new family. People take things for granted way to often.yes this pretty ****ed and the poeple in it don't help, when i didn't have cable and i watchd muary this young mother who had two kids stayed at a hotel and she went out, the kids had a baby sister. the 2 boys went out of the room and started playing in the hall. some guy coned them into coming into his room. beat the living hell out of both of them, hit them with chairs, hong them upside down out windows and smashed one of them in the head with a led to a toilet seat!!! one of the two boys died not to hard to tell witch one, the other one has some brain damge... when the mother got to the hosiple the doctors said "we did every thing could to save _____" (i can't remember the kids name)could you imagen what she felled like? the guy is severing life...i think.

[pizzaman]

That's off of a TV show? Holy crap! What kind of dumbass would write that script? Butterfly Effect had somewhat of the same message, but I didn't really like that movie. It's about this guys who has a screwed up life, and he can somehow go back in time for just a little while. He changes one thing, and his whole life is different. He just keeps going back and changing things, and other things happen. You should see it, even though I didn't like it. I don't really like depressing movies. I felt really sorry for the main character( Played by Aston Kutcher. ) in Butterfly Effect.

[Crazed Dragon]

That's off of a TV show? Holy crap! What kind of dumbass would write that script? Butterfly Effect had somewhat of the same message, but I didn't really like that movie. It's about this guys who has a screwed up life, and he can somehow go back in time for just a little while. He changes one thing, and his whole life is different. He just keeps going back and changing things, and other things happen. You should see it, even though I didn't like it. I don't really like depressing movies. I felt really sorry for the main character( Played by Aston Kutcher. ) in Butterfly Effect.i saw it on a show but it one of those talk show what i posted is ALL true doesn't that make you sick

[FireBird301]

Here, not to far from where I live, a guy killed his wife with a baseball bat. As if that wasn't bad enough the a**hole done it infront of his little kid, and the f***er only got like 10 years. I tell you the law system we have here is a load of crap as far as i'm concerened espically when a setence like that is delivered. Come on people get more than that for robbery.

[Kurt]

Those kinds of people are ****ing sick. The world is full of freaks like that, and our (America's) current court system isn't helping. People sort of look the other way when these kinds of things happen, which they have no right to do.
I'm not going to go into politics, but I completely support heavier sentences for "those" kinds of crimes.

[Rivaan]

Maury isn't a scripted show. It's a chat show with real people (I think. Not seen it, but I have seen others like it an I've heard of Maury). Ugh.. that's so ****ed up.. I don't understand why people do that. It has to be a mental defect.

My little bro's high-school is like normal one for pupils, although you can choose to have your child board there overnights or just go there for the lessons in the day. Well I say normal, but it's a special needs school. Anyway.. It was found out that the janitor of that school would molest some of the boarding boys at night. This was only recently found out and he was sent to jail. My bro has never boarded there though. He always comes home afterwards. Still, I can't believe a guy would do that to retarded children though.

[pizzaman]

The richest man in the world( A while back, before Bill Gates. ) was on a talk show. They were asking him questions and stuff, and he was answering. The talk show dude asked him, "If you could have one more thing in the world, what would it be?" And the rich guy siad, seriously, "One more dollar." That rich guy has a vault with $250,000( In one dollar bills. ) in his house. Every night he counts them one by one.
His son was kidnapped, and they asked for a randsom. The rich guy said that the money was more important. Could you believe that? That guy is sick. My like a second father to my brother and sister. If anyone would even insult them( even my friends. ) I would kick their ***. It's just not something you do. Never hurt a kid.

[chaos master]

The richest man in the world( A while back, before Bill Gates. ) was on a talk show. They were asking him questions and stuff, and he was answering. The talk show dude asked him, "If you could have one more thing in the world, what would it be?" And the rich guy siad, seriously, "One more dollar." That rich guy has a vault with $250,000( In one dollar bills. ) in his house. Every night he counts them one by one.
His son was kidnapped, and they asked for a randsom. The rich guy said that the money was more important. Could you believe that? That guy is sick. My like a second father to my brother and sister. If anyone would even insult them( even my friends. ) I would kick their ***. It's just not something you do. Never hurt a kid.
What was up with him? Why would he count a portion of his money one by one? Well, it something to do, but I would be too busy downloading the internet/buying all the major game companies/funding research to give me super powers to do that. Anyhow, I woulda just given them the money, as I have done many times in SimCity and the like. I think that guy likes his money too much.

[Kurt]

I think that guy likes his money too much. That, and he had to be totally ****ing insane to pick money over his own son.

[DarthBrady]

Yep the world is one screwed up place, I hear. Listen to this.

About a month ago, an old friend that I had not seen in a long time came to see me. We dont talk a lot, mainly because he is a drug addict, has been for many years. He doesnt want help, many,many have tried. He just goes back to it. But I have always been there for him, until this last meeting with him.
Anyway, he comes in my house, stinking of booze, all scraggly looking, asking me if my neighbor is home, so he can go use lies and a guilt trip to con him out of money, just as he was trying to do to me.(to make a long story short & simple).
And he had some guy with him, I knew who he was (a crackhead, and a known thief- its a small town). And the guy was just like scoping my house the whole time. I told him to leave, and he did, but not until his friend let my dog out and got hit by a car. But thats not it, this is the freaky part:
Two days later that same guy he had with him, was on the front page of our Newspaper, for shooting and killing somebody over a drugdeal/robbery. So I have pretty much banished my friend from my house.

-A guy I used to see everyday, he owned the store I ate at every morning, stabbed his wife to death in a bathtub. I was working at the county jail that night(a few years ago), and seen him sitting on a bench in the main office, he looked at me like he was in shock. he had blood on him, and looked at me and just said "I didnt mean it, I didnt know I was doing it" I didnt know what he was talking about at the time, they rushed me out immediatley then told me. I was stunned.

-my old roomate(who died in a car wreck) his best friend, who used to visit and stay with us often, shot and killed two people two years ago in his front yard.

-three people I graduated with, are all in prison for murder.
one a stabbing, one a shooting, and one with a vehice purposely.

-six more I went to school with in high school with, have been killed in car or four wheeler accidents.

-two more commited suicide, one I had 6 classes with.

-my cousin Randy was killed on a Four-Wheeler two days ago, I attended the Funeral Today

All in all, the world is a pretty cruel place, and a lot of bad things will happen in life around you, its part of life, we all got to face it I guess. We all have our own feelings and opinions about it, but as long as we can have hope and be strong, there's a good side of Life too, and we shouldnt forget about it, no matter what.

[pizzaman]

That, and he had to be totally ****ing insane to pick money over his own son.
Exactally. For example. Bill Gates, he's a billionaire. He get's like 40 billion dollars a year. He spends a lot of it ivesting in his business and such, but what about the rest? He has like 50 Billion bucks in his bank account and he doesn't share. People say he shares a lot. Like giving millions, and sometimes billions( VERY RARELY ), but I don't agree with that. I would give away anything left over that I didn't need. He's not going to buy anything else! If you're rich you're greedy. That is the case for most people that are rich.

[chaos master]

All in all, the world is a pretty cruel place, and a lot of bad things will happen in life around you, its part of life, we all got to face it I guess. We all have our own feelings and opinions about it, but as long as we can have hope and be strong, there's a good side of Life too, and we shouldnt forget about it, no matter what.
Words to live by. I wonder how Iconoclast would react to this.

[Kurt]

Exactally. For example. Bill Gates, he's a billionaire. He get's like 40 billion dollars a year. He spends a lot of it ivesting in his business and such, but what about the rest? He has like 50 Billion bucks in his bank account and he doesn't share. People say he shares a lot. Like giving millions, and sometimes billions( VERY RARELY ), but I don't agree with that. I would give away anything left over that I didn't need. He's not going to buy anything else! If you're rich you're greedy. That is the case for most people that are rich.So you don't remember Bill donating huge amounts of money to charity?

[chaos master]

Well, if I was rich, I would go on a massive buying spree, then after the shock wears off, I would donate 30% or so to charity if I really don't need it. The rest I would keep for financial security and if I wanted more stuff later, and then I would leave some to family and some to charity when I die. Well, it's what I'd do...

[pizzaman]

Yep the world is one screwed up place, I hear. Listen to this.
All in all, the world is a pretty cruel place, and a lot of bad things will happen in life around you, its part of life, we all got to face it I guess. We all have our own feelings and opinions about it, but as long as we can have hope and be strong, there's a good side of Life too, and we shouldnt forget about it, no matter what.
True. Like I said before( Somewhere in this forum. ) It's not the world that's bad, but the people that live in it. There's this kid who got arrested about a year ago for killing someone. He was 15, and got sent to jail for 26 years. Can you imagine how it would be like to do something like that? When he'll come out he'll be 41, and he'll be missing a third of his life for a mistake he did.

[pizzaman]

So you don't remember Bill donating huge amounts of money to charity?
I know he does, but I don't think that's enough. He has way too much money. If I was him I would retire and give all he has to charity. It's no use getting all the money if he isn't going to share it. Do you really think he needs 50 Billion dollars?

[Kurt]

I know he does, but I don't think that's enough. He has way too much money. If I was him I would retire and give all he has to charity. It's no use getting all the money if he isn't going to share it. Do you really think he needs 50 Billion dollars?No, but he gives extremely generously, compared to most human beings. Besides, he pretty much earned all that money himself.

Type "bill gates donates" or something along the lines into Google.

[chaos master]

I know he does, but I don't think that's enough. He has way too much money. If I was him I would retire and give all he has to charity. It's no use getting all the money if he isn't going to share it. Do you really think he needs 50 Billion dollars?
I wouldn't give ALL of it away, or else I'll have to have a job at 74. Game over. I think he just retired a week or two ago.

There's this kid who got arrested about a year ago for killing someone. He was 15, and got sent to jail for 26 years. Can you imagine how it would be like to do something like that? When he'll come out he'll be 41, and he'll be missing a third of his life for a mistake he did.

fun fact: there is actually a game that has a story like that, except someone set the guy up and he was 18 and got 28 years. Although, when this guy gets out, he goes straight for revenge and it is apparent he didn't learn a thing. Oh well.

[pizzaman]

Well, if I was rich, I would go on a massive buying spree, then after the shock wears off, I would donate 30% or so to charity if I really don't need it. The rest I would keep for financial security and if I wanted more stuff later, and then I would leave some to family and some to charity when I die. Well, it's what I'd do...
See there is a difference from donating a lot of money, and a lot compared to your bank account. If you donate one million dollars and you have a billion dollars total, then you're being greddy IMO. You get what I'm saying?

[pizzaman]

No, but he gives extremely generously, compared to most human beings. Besides, he pretty much earned all that money himself.

Type "bill gates donates" or something along the lines into Google.
He is generous compared to us, but not compared to his bank account. You get what I'm saying?

[Kurt]

See there is a difference from donating a lot of money, and a lot compared to your bank account. If you donate one million dollars and you have a billion dollars total, then you're being greddy IMO. You get what I'm saying?Dude, he is a busy man. I'm sure he puts most of his money to good use, even if he does not share his money-related info with you. Inventions, funding startup companies, more inventions, paying employees, donating rediculous sums of money to charity, and whatnot.

[DarthBrady]

Yeah, its strange, thinking I wont see some of those people again, for like 40 or 50 years.

In Louisville, Kentucky; these two kid brothers were home alone playing playstation, and the older brother(13 y/o) shot his little brother and killed him, in a fight over the controller. Their single mother, was out working two jobs to kepp food on the table, and try to give them a normal life, so they could have noce things like playstations and stuff. I mean, who's to blame, The government? the parents? the schools? all of us? Now he will sit in prison for life.

[pizzaman]

I wouldn't give ALL of it away, or else I'll have to have a job at 74. Game over. I think he just retired a week or two ago.
He wouldn't need a job! My dad worked for 7 years at the restaurant here in America, and he'll be getting $1200 a month when he retires. Bill Gates will get a lot more!

[pizzaman]

Yeah, its strange, thinking I wont see some of those people again, for like 40 or 50 years.

In Louisville, Kentucky; these two kid brothers were home alone playing playstation, and the older brother(13 y/o) shot his little brother and killed him, in a fight over the controller. Their single mother, was out working two jobs to kepp food on the table, and try to give them a normal life, so they could have noce things like playstations and stuff. I mean, who's to blame, The government? the parents? the schools? all of us? Now he will sit in prison for life.
I think that the major problem is the first amendment. I'm not saying that it's wrong to have freedom( That would make me a communist ), but not too much freedom. Today if you get sued over something, you can tell your lawyer that you did it and that you are guilty, and he still has to protect you! It's like WTH! If there was justice in the world, there would be no crime.

[Kurt]

He wouldn't need a job! My dad worked for 7 years at the restaurant here in America, and he'll be getting $1200 a month when he retires. Bill Gates will get a lot more!I'm also fairly sure that on his will, Bill Gates will donate half or more of his money to various charities.

*predicts the future*

[chaos master]

Yeah, its strange, thinking I wont see some of those people again, for like 40 or 50 years.

In Louisville, Kentucky; these two kid brothers were home alone playing playstation, and the older brother(13 y/o) shot his little brother and killed him, in a fight over the controller. Their single mother, was out working two jobs to kepp food on the table, and try to give them a normal life, so they could have noce things like playstations and stuff. I mean, who's to blame, The government? the parents? the schools? all of us? Now he will sit in prison for life.
As we say in Jersey: YO!! THAT'S MESSED UP, YO!!!

Out of the the stories that Grand Theft Auto is evil, it actually saved these kid's lives. See, these kids were up late playing GTAIII, when this burglar dude was trying to break in. He heard the sirens from the game and thought they were real, so he ran away and they were saved.

[pizzaman]

I'm also fairly sure that on his will, Bill Gates will donate half or more of his money to various charities.

*predicts the future*
Still you should give it while you're alive. Anyone can pretend that he's good by donating things when they die. When you're dead, you don't need them.

[pizzaman]

As we say in Jersey: YO!! THAT'S MESSED UP, YO!!!

Out of the the stories that Grand Theft Auto is evil, it actually saved these kid's lives. See, these kids were up late playing GTAIII, when this burglar dude was trying to break in. He heard the sirens from the game and thought they were real, so he ran away and they were saved.
Lol, he's a moron.

Did you guys know that a burglar was breaking in to a house and was trapped in the garage? IDK how he managed to do that, but when the family got back from the vacation( three days later ) the burglar sued them and he won. That is what I call retarded.

[Kurt]

Still you should give it while you're alive. Anyone can pretend that he's good by donating things when they die. When you're dead, you don't need them. I sort of see your point, but stop talking about this. Not many people in the world know what Bill Gates is thinking, if any. He has donated huge amounts to charity. And if you donate after you're dead, you have no reason to keep the money, allowing... something. I'm tired of posting in this thread, it's vaguely depressing.

[chaos master]

He wouldn't need a job! My dad worked for 7 years at the restaurant here in America, and he'll be getting $1200 a month when he retires. Bill Gates will get a lot more!
He is getting it now. Anyhow, giving away your entire fortune is not good financially. As they say, you have to spend money to make money, and if he takes all this money away from Microsoft, then not only would technology today be hindered, but he won't be able to make more money to donate. Thou shouldn't kill thy goose who lays the golden eggs! On the other hand, if it was his personal fortune, then that's okay, but Microsoft is becoming less and less Bill Gates everyday. He is more like a figurehead now. He should give some to his family, though.

[DarthBrady]

Out of the the stories that Grand Theft Auto is evil, it actually saved these kid's lives. See, these kids were up late playing GTAIII, when this burglar dude was trying to break in. He heard the sirens from the game and thought they were real, so he ran away and they were saved.

WOW!! That is Cool! Three Cheers for Rockstar Games!
Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip Hip Hooray!

Now, you see, thats exactly what I was talking about, keepin' it Real by Remembering the Good side of Life. Yeah thats great,:)

[chaos master]

Still you should give it while you're alive. Anyone can pretend that he's good by donating things when they die. When you're dead, you don't need them.
But donating for glory is sick and twisted. For shame. It shouldn't matter when.

[pizzaman]

I sort of see your point, but stop talking about this. Not many people in the world know what Bill Gates is thinking, if any. He has donated huge amounts to charity. And if you donate after you're dead, you have no reason to keep the money, allowing... something. I'm tired of posting in this thread, it's vaguely depressing.
Okay no more talking about Bill Gates, but it's good that this thread depreses you. This kind of stuff makes me feel good that I have a good family. My dad, who sometimes argues with my mom, told me himself that they will never devorce. You know why? Because he doesn't want me and my sibiling to be in a family like that. I think that is really amazing. There aren't many people like my dad out there.

[pizzaman]

He is getting it now. Anyhow, giving away your entire fortune is not good financially. As they say, you have to spend money to make money, and if he takes all this money away from Microsoft, then not only would technology today be hindered, but he won't be able to make more money to donate. Thou shouldn't kill thy goose who lays the golden eggs! On the other hand, if it was his personal fortune, then that's okay, but Microsoft is becoming less and less Bill Gates everyday. He is more like a figurehead now. He should give some to his family, though.
I mean that he should give away the money he doesn't need. He should keep some, but not 50 billion. I think that's a little exagerated.

[pizzaman]

But donating for glory is sick and twisted. For shame. It shouldn't matter when.
Actually yes it does. If you donate when you don't need it, it's not really as valuable.

[Kurt]

Actually yes it does. If you donate when you don't need it, it's not really as valuable.No, that's stupid. You should only donate when you don't need or can do without the money, unless you have tons to spare like Bill Gates.

[pizzaman]

Now, you see, thats exactly what I was talking about, keepin' it Real by Remembering the Good side of Life. Yeah thats great,:)
Yessir! I try to be optimistic all the time. I'm usually a smiling person, when I'm not in school( Because when I'm in school, I sleep. ).

[Kurt]

Yessir! I try to be optimistic all the time. I'm usually a smiling person, when I'm not in school( Because when I'm in school, I sleep. ).Optimism is great. I bet Iconoclast agrees! Really, though, I like to be optimistic, unless I am in a situation that, and I quote somebody, "sucks".

[pizzaman]

No, that's stupid. You should only donate when you don't need or can do without the money, unless you have tons to spare like Bill Gates.
I mean, if you donate when you have spare money, then it's good. But if you donate when you aren't ever going to need it anymore, it's not as significant.

[chaos master]

Lol, he's a moron.

Did you guys know that a burglar was breaking in to a house and was trapped in the garage? IDK how he managed to do that, but when the family got back from the vacation( three days later ) the burglar sued them and he won. That is what I call retarded.

Loopholes are evil/cool.

It's like when that dude sued that place because he spilled coffee on himself and won. I could see how that played out:

Welcome to (NO ADS, FOO!), how may I help thou?!
Gimme a coffee, *****.
This coffee is hot, mister.


*guy gets coffee*
*guy starts driving*
*guy starts drinking and driving*
*guy spills coffee on his manhood (karma?)*
*guy is enraged because his coffee is hot*
*guy turns around and rams his car through the wall of the store*

You gave me hot coffee and I spilled it on myself! Imma sue you for everything you got!

***day of the court case arrives***

All rise. The honorable Judge McStupid is presiding (Whatever that means, lol)

*retarded person is called to the stand*

Well, your honor, these retards gave me hot coffee (not that hot coffee, perv). Who sells hot coffee? I like my coffee frozen solid. Then, I got onto the road in my car. Now, I'm a born multitasker, so I used one hand to steer and one hand to sip my coffee. I hit a bump, and I spilled all of my coffee onto my crotchal area. Now, the last time I checked, the store that sold me the coffee magically controlled my limbs. Ergo, it is completely their fault. They're wizards!! Hang them all! I have evidence, too!

*guy drops his pants and shows the court his disfigured crotch*
*gasps, vomiting, giggling, and blackberry typing occurs*

I rest my case.

*store representives go on to tell a less retarded case*

Well, I do recall hot coffee being illegal in this country. I also remember that stores have a tendency to magically control retard limbs. And most importantly: I love bacon. Have you come up with a verdict, jury?

Yes, sir.

On the count of magically controlling limbs, we find the store GUILTY.
On the count of selling hot coffee, we find the store GUILY.
On the count of being a world class retard, we find the retard INNOCENT.
On the count of being fabulous, we find the jury GUILY AS CHARGED.

*court finds in favor of the retard*
*retard laughs at the store people, then hops in his car*
*retard drives 10 feet and then crashes into a lamp post*
*car instantly bursts into flame*
*lightning strikes the car 42 times*
*God shoots flaming acid at car*

and so on....

[Kurt]

You're on your way, kid. Next time, more crotch jokes.

Wow, the atmosphere of this thread sure has changed.

[chaos master]

I mean, if you donate when you have spare money, then it's good. But if you donate when you aren't ever going to need it anymore, it's not as significant.
I bet the orphans don't care how much the significance is of the donation. They just want some food and a teddy. ;_;

[pizzaman]

Actually it was an 80-year old lady who sued. And she sued McDoland for 14.9 million dollars! What moron spills hot coffee on her/himself and doesn't realize that it could hurt!

[pizzaman]

I bet the orphans don't care how much the significance is of the donation. They just want some food and a teddy. ;_;
The orphans might not care, but I do. Enough talking about this though, you're too stuborn for me to waste my time.

[Kurt]

The orphans might not care, but I do. Enough talking about this though, you're too stuborn for me to waste my time.You guys are both stubborn. Who here isn't?

[Crazed Dragon]

pizzaman i feel there should be a poll here...on what i'm not sure, but i still fell there should be one
if you do make a poll make sure that everyone can voted :p

[pizzaman]

You guys are both stubborn. Who here isn't?
I'll always be stuborn, but I can always change someone's mind. Not on forums of course, cuz I can't freaking talk! I can only type! I might just be because I intimidate people when I yell sometimes. And I yell if someone isn't gettine what I'm saying. IDK, maybe it might be becuase I think they are deaf.

[pizzaman]

pizzaman i feel there should be a poll here...on what i'm not sure, but i still fell there should be
if you do make a poll make sure that everyone can voted :p
Well if anyone wants to remind us of how ****ty the world has become, then do so here. I'm calmer now, but I was really infuriated when I learned what happened with that guy stabbing his wife. It just makes me mad seeing people do dumb mistakes that cost them their lives, as well as others.

[Kurt]

I'll always be stuborn, but I can always change someone's mind. Not on forums of course, cuz I can't freaking talk! I can only type! I might just be because I intimidate people when I yell sometimes. And I yell if someone isn't gettine what I'm saying. IDK, maybe it might be becuase I think they are deaf.I'm fairly good at convincing people, moreso vocally though. I make a lot of jokes, which offends a lot of people for some reason, so I learned to argue decently.

[pizzaman]

I'm fairly good at convincing people, moreso vocally though. I make a lot of jokes, which offends a lot of people for some reason, so I learned to argue decently.
I'm great with words. IDK why, but that is my gift. But enough of this off-topic conversation. Get back on-topic guys! This is a serious thread.

[cherko]

The following sentence is on-topic: I love life.

[Iconoclast]

I didn't see this yesterday.

I think the world is ****ed up, too. That's connected to as to why I named myself Iconoclast. I have fell into emotions, too sad to cry, too sick to vomit, emotions about death and anger. Those people aren't alone. I've been slapped, had thrown things at me, thrown around by my dad; I have been both emotionally and physically abused. My dad has severe anger problems at times, and has hit me before several times. But I think emotional pain is worse than physical pain.

[chaos master]

I didn't see this yesterday.

I think the world is ****ed up, too. That's connected to as to why I named myself Iconoclast. I have fell into emotions, too sad to cry, too sick to vomit, emotions about death and anger. Those people aren't alone. I've been slapped, had thrown things at me, thrown around by my dad; I have been both emotionally and physically abused. My dad has severe anger problems at times, and has hit me before several times. But I think emotional pain is worse than physical pain.
Actually, that stuff is true for me at times, and sometimes my dad goes into a rage (and sometimes he walks around the house naked o_O). One time, my mom was considering running away with us. It never happened. Yo dad must lean it ain't okay to hit peoples. But, my dad is not good sometimes as he curses loudly while doing yard work and what not which scares the neighborhood kids sometimes. Oh bother. He sometimes goes to his secluded bedroom, where he sometimes watches the porn. Egads, I say! I sure am lucky that I can be a mature person sometimes.

PS: I have had a shoe thrown at my crotch before by my mom (she musta been ANGRY, dawg), but I dove out of the way at the last second. She said she was sorry later.

All this hittin' and shoutin' and stuff has somewhat twisted my mind into expecting such things from people. But mostly, they behave now. It may have something to do that now I'm bigger than both of them. Ha hah! Payback time....or not.

[Iconoclast]

Actually, that stuff is true for me at times, and sometimes my dad goes into a rage (and sometimes he walks around the house naked o_O). One time, my mom was considering running away with us. It never happened. Yo dad must lean it ain't okay to hit peoples. But, my dad is not good sometimes as he curses loudly while doing yard work and what not which scares the neighborhood kids sometimes. Oh bother. He sometimes goes to his secluded bedroom, where he sometimes watches the porn. Egads, I say! I sure am lucky that I can be a mature person sometimes.

PS: I have had a shoe thrown at my crotch before by my mom (she musta been ANGRY, dawg), but I dove out of the way at the last second. She said she was sorry later.

All this hittin' and shoutin' and stuff has somewhat twisted my mind into expecting such things from people. But mostly, they behave now. It may have something to do that now I'm bigger than both of them. Ha hah! Payback time....or not.A mature person is not proud of being mature. What utter bull****. If your parents really abused you, you would be bitter and ****ed up like I am now. I've been mega punched in the heart, twisted my ankle limping for three months, damaged pinky couldn't clench my fist for three months or so, anxiety attacks, thought of death that made me too sick to vomit, and tears of anger. I hope both of my parents ****ing burn in hell for what they've done to me.

My dad considered the same when mom abandoned us at a bug-infested cabin. Ever since her dad died, she's had some worse emotional problems. Drinking and smoking ain't going to help, though. My dad had his share of abuse from his dad, who threw him across the house and did worse things to him. A New Yorker.

[chaos master]

Who said I was proud of it? >_> Did you? You should chill and then defeat them with morality. w00t? I broke my toe and had lotsa pain walking for a whole week. If you want to destroy them, then bring them to court, but first get evidence. What do you mean by mega punched? I think I felt one of those. Big punches hurt. Ow. Did your parents do that? Well, you can really get em now. My cousin got really afraid of death before. He was afraid to play Goldeneye with me for months. I get really nervous sometimes, sometimes really angry. When I'm nervous, it feels like I'm running off of pure adrenaline, especially if I can't eat, which is often when I'm nervous. I can be nervous about something for months at a time. Do you really want vengeance on your parents? You'll probably get your chance later in life (if you haven't already) like when they are all old and need help. I haven't been beaten like you have or something, but I either have experienced a different form of or know someone who has been abused. But that's mean. Forgive and forget, riiiiiight? Riiiiight? ...I digressed, or have I? This is actually on topic about being messed up.

Anyhow, can you really stereotype people by state? You don't like it when hackers are stereotyped, do you? If you went to my school, you'd see that there are many different types of people in NJ. Quiet people, loud people, rude people, mean people, nice people, generous people, greedy people, rich people, poor people, funny people, serious people, people who work with technology, people who work with their hands, gangstas, bookish people, all types of people. Hance America's nickname, the 'melting pot.'

[Iconoclast]

Who said I was proud of it? >_> Did you? You should chill and then defeat them with morality. w00t? I broke my toe and had lotsa pain walking for a whole week. If you want to destroy them, then bring them to court, but first get evidence. What do you mean by mega punched? I think I felt one of those. Big punches hurt. Ow. Did your parents do that? Well, you can really get em now. My cousin got really afraid of death before. He was afraid to play Goldeneye with me for months. I get really nervous sometimes, sometimes really angry. When I'm nervous, it feels like I'm running off of pure adrenaline, especially if I can't eat, which is often when I'm nervous. I can be nervous about something for months at a time. Do you really want vengeance on your parents? You'll probably get your chance later in life (if you haven't already) like when they are all old and need help. I haven't been beaten like you have or something, but I either have experienced a different form of or know someone who has been abused. But that's mean. Forgive and forget, riiiiiight? Riiiiight? ...I digressed, or have I? This is actually on topic about being messed up.

Anyhow, can you really stereotype people by state? You don't like it when hackers are stereotyped, do you? If you went to my school, you'd see that there are many different types of people in NJ. Quiet people, loud people, rude people, mean people, nice people, generous people, greedy people, rich people, poor people, funny people, serious people, people who work with technology, people who work with their hands, gangstas, bookish people, all types of people. Hance America's nickname, the 'melting pot.'Defeat them with morality? They have anger problems, and anger is a disability. If you try and get wise with them, they'll think you're acting like a smartass and they'll get ****ed. I need to deal with them calmly. I am not going to act like a smartass to them, bragging about having wisdom or whatever. They can't help it if they're born to act like *******s. It's in their disability, and nothing to taunt them about. But when they **** me off, I **** all that I just said and feel like stabbing them. Put an end to their life. Life is a curse. Death is heaven.

I don't want to drag the court into this. Don't see why? If you have anything to report about your parents, call the court right now. The reason why you don't want to do that is the same with me. I ain't got the guts. It's not worth it, anyway. My entire family is not corrupted, just these two.

Dude, I was so afraid of death, I couldn't even stand up. I told you I was too sick to vomit. If you don't know what that feels like, YOU DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE. It's not the bombing of people or any of that. I wasn't up for playing GoldenEye anymore than any of the other N64 games. In fact, I was playing GoldenEye while I was sick with thoughts of death. So maybe I wasn't sad about death...a lonely feeling. But it made me want to die right then and get it over with. I just couldn't stand up. It made me so sick, it's worse than an anxiety attack. I felt changed for the rest of my life every time I got sick into thoughts about death or whatever it really was. It makes you never laugh. It's like a dementor.

When I say it's worse than an anxiety attack, that's really saying something. I had an anxiety attack one school morning during a school presentation. I suddely felt like I was going to vomit, maybe even die, in front of everyone around me. My face became extremely pale of fright. I leaned to the side of the bleacher. Other students noticed me, but I felt too sick to be nervous or embarassed in any way. I felt too sick to stand, to sit, and I started breathing harder and harder till I felt like I would die of lack of oxygen or faint. But anxiety attacks never kill me. I felt much better after the presentation, regarding those fallen in the Iraqi War. But that's not why my anxiety attack started. It's because I ran to school that day or something, but I'm not really sure. It's interesting. The four ways to help reduce anxiety:

Sit up straight, feet flat on the ground.
Close your eyes.
Hands flat on your sitting bench.
Imagine how someone socially professional would deal with the problem.I am the opposite of doing ALL of those things!!! I hate sitting in that normal way all of you do. In fact, I feel more comfortable sitting cross-legged, which you might call indian style. I just don't close my eyes...never for long in public. My hands are far from the feeling of lying flat on my desk. And I don't like imagining someone else dealing with it, because I think that is selfish, imagining them with the pain instead of me having it...very selfish.

I am messed up, so I am on topic.

I have noticed that within Wisconsin as well. I have seen mostly happy, life-filled idiots. Some are cynical teachers, some always like to joke, one of them is obsessed with generations and against the 60s. Idiot. One of them is awful quiet, she got extremely upset when her grandfather died. She faltered when talking about it in class, ran to the bathroom, couldn't finish. I can no longer cry about people dying. No matter who I know that dies, I will be immune to the sadness.

Stereotyping is...unsafe. You CAN do that...it is a little too assumptious and annoying to the person stereotyped to have them think you think you know everything about them just because of some stereotype, like if they wear glasses. I don't like being stereotyped, but that is of the least of my annoyances. But, however, as injustice as stereotyping seems, it ALMOST really seems to come true. People in New York have anger problems, and my dad's side of the family have been there. It almost seems like each state has it's population with individual personality. Surely, 75 percent of those native born in New Jersy, for example, are sure to have some kind of trait in common. Not being white or having the ability to walk or any of the obvious. Like anger problems.

[chaos master]

When I say it's worse than an anxiety attack, that's really saying something. I had an anxiety attack one school morning during a school presentation. I suddely felt like I was going to vomit, maybe even die, in front of everyone around me. My face became extremely pale of fright. I leaned to the side of the bleacher. Other students noticed me, but I felt too sick to be nervous or embarassed in any way. I felt too sick to stand, to sit, and I started breathing harder and harder till I felt like I would die of lack of oxygen or faint. But anxiety attacks never kill me. I felt much better after the presentation, regarding those fallen in the Iraqi War. But that's not why my anxiety attack started. It's because I ran to school that day or something, but I'm not really sure. It's interesting. The four ways to help reduce anxiety:

Sit up straight, feet flat on the ground.
Close your eyes.
Hands flat on your sitting bench.
Imagine how someone socially professional would deal with the problem.I am the opposite of doing ALL of those things!!! I hate sitting in that normal way all of you do. In fact, I feel more comfortable sitting cross-legged, which you might call indian style. I just don't close my eyes...never for long in public. My hands are far from the feeling of lying flat on my desk. And I don't like imagining someone else dealing with it, because I think that is selfish, imagining them with the pain instead of me having it...very selfish.

I am messed up, so I am on topic.

Okeydoke. I can evade sadness by simply getting it out of my head. If I'm unaware of it, then I'm not affected.

Whoa, you got sick like that too?? Weird. This one morning a few years ago, my class was going to church for a morning mass (mind you I also went to catholic elementary and middle school, this case was in 7th grade I think). Anyhoo, I was just chillin' and what not, when I suddenly felt light-headed. I tried to shake it off, but then my I saw spots before my eyes, like after someone takes your picture and flashes in your face, but the dots grew until I could hardly see at all. I felt like vomiting, so I got me a teacher to escort me back to the school, where I spent most of my time in the bathroom hunched over, trying to keep my head below my heart and whatnot until my mom picked me up. In the car ride home, it took all the will power I had to keep from making a giant vomit mess all over the place. So, I got home and ran to the bathroom and vomited out this black stuff with dots in it that looked like crumbled Oreos... Eww.... Anyhoo, most of the time when I go to church, the same happens/almost happens/slightly happens. My friends say it's because I'm possesed by demons. Oh well...

Anyhoo, that is messed up, so on topic...? okay, close enough anyhow.

[Iconoclast]

Okeydoke. I can evade sadness by simply getting it out of my head. If I'm unaware of it, then I'm not affected.

Whoa, you got sick like that too?? Weird. This one morning a few years ago, my class was going to church for a morning mass (mind you I also went to catholic elementary and middle school, this case was in 7th grade I think). Anyhoo, I was just chillin' and what not, when I suddenly felt light-headed. I tried to shake it off, but then my I saw spots before my eyes, like after someone takes your picture and flashes in your face, but the dots grew until I could hardly see at all. I felt like vomiting, so I got me a teacher to escort me back to the school, where I spent most of my time in the bathroom hunched over, trying to keep my head below my heart and whatnot until my mom picked me up. In the car ride home, it took all the will power I had to keep from making a giant vomit mess all over the place. So, I got home and ran to the bathroom and vomited out this black stuff with dots in it that looked like crumbled Oreos... Eww.... Anyhoo, most of the time when I go to church, the same happens/almost happens/slightly happens. My friends say it's because I'm possesed by demons. Oh well...

Anyhoo, that is messed up, so on topic...? okay, close enough anyhow.That was no anxiety attack.

POSSESSED BY DEMONS??? Uh, yeah, I believe you when you say you go to Catholic school. Silly religiousness involved. Possessed by demons. Oh, that was cute. I mean, I tend to consider religion a little, but goddamn. Usually, what you vomit out, depends on what you ate before. So maybe you were eating Oreos. So, wait, this happens everyday you go to church, but not the days that you don't? I thought religion can be a little corrupting, but as disgusted as I ever was at Christ:)ianity, I never vomitted.

They say that the Evolution branch of Biology has conflictuous teachings with arguments between science and religious matters. I wonder how they're teaching evolution over there.

Did you know that immature behavior is actually a sign of emotional abuse in children?

[Kameo]

So, this is some therapy session or something?? If U really R troubled by it U should seek some help, chatting about it here on CoolROM isn't exactly going to help.

I've had my share of problems with my parents when I grew up, they were a perfect rolemodel of something I didn't want to become. Learn from it, live with it, and make sure U will not become as they R.....

[Iconoclast]

So, this is some therapy session or something?? If U really R troubled by it U should seek some help, chatting about it here on CoolROM isn't exactly going to help.

I've had my share of problems with my parents when I grew up, they were a perfect rolemodel of something I didn't want to become. Learn from it, live with it, and make sure U will not become as they R.....Yeah, see, I was a much brighter child until my parents sucked the life out of me.

It's called socialization! Is there a problem with that?

[chaos master]

That was no anxiety attack.

POSSESSED BY DEMONS??? Uh, yeah, I believe you when you say you go to Catholic school. Silly religiousness involved. Possessed by demons. Oh, that was cute. I mean, I tend to consider religion a little, but goddamn. Usually, what you vomit out, depends on what you ate before. So maybe you were eating Oreos. So, wait, this happens everyday you go to church, but not the days that you don't? I thought religion can be a little corrupting, but as disgusted as I ever was at Christ:)ianity, I never vomitted.

They say that the Evolution branch of Biology has conflictuous teachings with arguments between science and religious matters. I wonder how they're teaching evolution over there.

Did you know that immature behavior is actually a sign of emotional abuse in children?
Actually, I ate nothing for quite a while (at least 12 hours) before that, so I think it was bile.

I think it has to do with the environment the filled church creates. It is usually very hot in there, whether it be from the heating system or the sun, and when too many people are around me breathing MY air, I in turn get less air until I feel faint/vommity.

My school teaches evolution like it is. In my faith, the Bible is not meant to be taken literally, but it has a deeper meaning and the stories are symbolic. They do have a religion for the people who take the Bible literally, it is called Fundementalism. So, in my faith, we believe it is very possible for evolution/science to coexist with religion.

You shouldn't bash any religion openly. It makes you look like a mean person.

Yes, I'll have you know that I am VERY cute, punk.

About that last thing: you said that already, and I said "Well, good thing I'm not immature, then." I think. Well, let's get back to messed up things.

[Kameo]

Yeah, see, I was a much brighter child until my parents sucked the life out of me.

It's called socialization! Is there a problem with that?

Apparantly there is, for U. So what R U going to do next?? Keep on whining about it like U do here or will U change this into some benefit for U?? It's Ur life, U decide what direction it's going. U seem to be a bright fellow, atleast to me, do U really believe that whining is the best solution?? What's Ur next step??

[Iconoclast]

Apparantly there is, for U. So what R U going to do next?? Keep on whining about it like U do here or will U change this into some benefit for U?? It's Ur life, U decide what direction it's going. U seem to be a bright fellow, atleast to me, do U really believe that whining is the best solution?? What's Ur next step??Whining? That's what Kurt said. Where did I whine? You mean about being sick about death and crap? Look, you like to ***** and complain just as much as I do! We're even.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I know, it's my life. I control it. I wasn't thinking that this is to my benifit. I was just socializing; if there's something wrong with that, in a General Chat thread, tell me right now why it's wrong to do.

[Elric]

There isn't a damn thing wrong with it brother. When parents are that F ed up sometimes the best thing you can do is to get involved in after school things like sports or the Chess or math club.
Spend as little time at home as you have to, study hard to make sure you can support yourself and get the hell out as soon as you can after you graduate.

[chaos master]

There isn't a damn thing wrong with it brother. When parents are that F ed up sometimes the best thing you can do is to get involved in after school things like sports or the Chess or math club.
Spend as little time at home as you have to, study hard to make sure you can support yourself and get the hell out as soon as you can after you graduate.
Yeah, now all you need is willpower. Well, my parents are actually okay people, but I still want to do much better than they have ever done. But if you don't spend much time at home, then you can't play games! ;_; Anyhoo, bad parents are messed up, but telling kids that their parents are wrong isn't too good either, for anarchy might ensue. Some kids don't know wrong from right, so they think that thier parents are evil for making them have a good sleep schedule or good diet. *cough*Iconoclast*cough* jk....:p

[Iconoclast]

There isn't a damn thing wrong with it brother. When parents are that F ed up sometimes the best thing you can do is to get involved in after school things like sports or the Chess or math club.
Spend as little time at home as you have to, study hard to make sure you can support yourself and get the hell out as soon as you can after you graduate.Ah, I believe you. This school does have a chess club...

I mean, God, Kameo, why do you like to suddenly attack users with all the questions and stuff? I was just socializing until you started practically attacking me over here about it.

[chaos master]

Ah, I believe you. This school does have a chess club...
Then I suggest you join them, own them, and become their leader.

Anyhow, it's messed up that Americans are all rude now and mean because the aura or general mood of the cities are usually pretty low most of the time. Cities today are filled with people being worn out by going to work and sleeping 6 hours a day and stuff. Other countries are happier because they have a higher aura, even some of the poorer countries.

[Iconoclast]

Then I suggest you join them, own them, and become their leader.

Anyhow, it's messed up that Americans are all rude now and mean because the aura or general mood of the cities are usually pretty low most of the time. Cities today are filled with people being worn out by going to work and sleeping 6 hours a day and stuff. Other countries are happier because they have a higher aura, even some of the poorer countries.I'm having a hard time joining them because of difficulties getting home and transportation concerns.

[pizzaman]

Well I have to go, but I know exactally what to say to you guys when I come back. I see lots of problems here.

[pizzaman]

Can you guys hear yourselves? You think that getting away from your parents is the problem? I'll tell you a story here. My dad, a couple of years ago, was always angry. Everyday. If I asked him something he would just yell at me and say,"Do whatever you want, you don't listen to me anyway." So I did, but I realized that the easy way isn't the best way. My dad worked 20 hours a day trying to support us, all of us, and who am I to disrespect him? I decided to be nice. Whenever he said I couldn't do something, or go someplace, I said,"Okay," instead of being sarcastic or getting mad at him. After a while he calmed down, and would be sort of nicer. Now he tells me everything. If he has a problem he tells me. He knows I can't solve any of his problems, but we're family. Families should stick together.

Iconoclast, try to be nice to your dad and mom. I know they might **** you off, but if you get mad and, like you said, hate them, then you're no better then them. Give them a chance.

[Elric]

Being beaten to the point of injury is a hell of a lot diferent than being yelled at.
Some people make bad parents and you just have to make the best of it until you can get out. Study hard and get the best education that you can so that you can become self sustaining and take care of your self.
No all parents are bad and mine are prime examples of that. They did the best they could for us and let us know that no matter what they loved us and would help us in any way they could.

[cherko]

I love my parents, and my whole family. Hearing your stories gives me the feel that I've been really really really lucky, cuz' my parents never hit me or anything, and they've raised my four siblings perfectly too :P

[Iconoclast]

Can you guys hear yourselves? You think that getting away from your parents is the problem? I'll tell you a story here. My dad, a couple of years ago, was always angry. Everyday. If I asked him something he would just yell at me and say,"Do whatever you want, you don't listen to me anyway." So I did, but I realized that the easy way isn't the best way. My dad worked 20 hours a day trying to support us, all of us, and who am I to disrespect him? I decided to be nice. Whenever he said I couldn't do something, or go someplace, I said,"Okay," instead of being sarcastic or getting mad at him. After a while he calmed down, and would be sort of nicer. Now he tells me everything. If he has a problem he tells me. He knows I can't solve any of his problems, but we're family. Families should stick together.

Iconoclast, try to be nice to your dad and mom. I know they might **** you off, but if you get mad and, like you said, hate them, then you're no better then them. Give them a chance.I have considered that. I've done that a little, too.

It's OK, Kameo, I get insane and ask strange questions every once in a while, too. Must be that anime/manga...stuff can teach you a little about life, depending on the cartoon.

[Kurt]

Must be that anime/manga...stuff can teach you a little about life, depending on the cartoon.Actually, it's scientifically proven to make you stupider. How stupid you are depends on the crappiness of the shows you watch.

:rolleyes:

[Iconoclast]

An interesting tip to remember.I love my parents, and my whole family. Hearing your stories gives me the feel that I've been really really really lucky, cuz' my parents never hit me or anything, and they've raised my four siblings perfectly too :PI'm confused...are you bragging? Because I don't care how lucky you are. Even so, congratulations.

[Iconoclast]

Actually, it's scientifically proven to make you stupider. How stupid you are depends on the crappiness of the shows you watch.

:rolleyes:That explains why my dad keeps asking me snotty smartass retorical questions since he's been watching Law and Order.

[Iconoclast]

I'll always be stuborn, but I can always change someone's mind. Not on forums of course, cuz I can't freaking talk! I can only type! I might just be because I intimidate people when I yell sometimes. And I yell if someone isn't gettine what I'm saying. IDK, maybe it might be becuase I think they are deaf.Some people are immune practically to the intimidation method of persuasion.

[Kurt]

That explains why my dad keeps asking me snotty smartass retorical questions since he's been watching Law and Order.No, it doesn't. Law and Order sucks, anyway.

[Iconoclast]

No, it doesn't. Law and Order sucks, anyway.You don't think it does?

He's asking me indirect, rhetorical questions. Like, ah, hell, I can't remember a thing, no matter what. My memory varies. But please believe me, that show is poisoning his mind. He's thinking too cynically because of that show. TV really does affect us.

[Kurt]

You don't think it does?

He's asking me indirect, rhetorical questions. Like, ah, hell, I can't remember a thing, no matter what. My memory varies. But please believe me, that show is poisoning his mind. He's thinking too cynically because of that show. TV really does affect us.Well, he's not going to develop his philosophy based off a TV series. Then again, I don't know your dad.

TV does make you stupider, though, even if only as a lifestyle choice.

[Iconoclast]

Not entirely off of a TV series. For example, he believes that actions speak better than words. Though he says that when he is blinded by anger. That was philosophy that he heard before. Though, you really do sound like you understand this.

I'll bet the reason he does it is to make us feel like retards. To make himself seem smarter than us. Why else would he be doing it?

[Kurt]

I'll bet the reason he does it is to make us feel like retards. To make himself seem smarter than us. Why else would he be doing it? Some people absorb other's opinions like sponges, and your dad sounds like he might be one of them. Keep in mind I don't know him, but you're probably right about him trying to seem smarter by watching a semi-intellectual TV show.

[Iconoclast]

Some people absorb other's opinions like sponges, and your dad sounds like he might be one of them. Keep in mind I don't know him, but you're probably right about him trying to seem smarter by watching a semi-intellectual TV show.Hmm, well, he accepts the validity of stated opinions, even by me and my brother. Except when he's angry. Then he just likes to argue to get the last word. But, he can't help that. As he won't believe, anger is a disability. He is just not meant to understand that. He seems so paranoid to the fact that we're children. He's passive when mom 'disrespects', as he says, him, but he'd smack the **** out of us if we said anything to him that Mom said to him. He's probably annoyed at us being children like we're little imps picking on him, but I have done no such thing. What the hell is his problem? He's always demanding respect from us but not Mom. Who cares about respect? I don't care about being respected. In fact, I don't want to be respected. Don't get me wrong; I don't want to be disrespect, either.

[Kurt]

Hmm, well, he accepts the validity of stated opinions, even by me and my brother. Except when he's angry. Then he just likes to argue to get the last word. But, he can't help that. As he won't believe, anger is a disability. He is just not meant to understand that. He seems so paranoid to the fact that we're children. He's passive when mom 'disrespects', as he says, him, but he'd smack the **** out of us if we said anything to him that Mom said to him. He's probably annoyed at us being children like we're little imps picking on him, but I have done no such thing. What the hell is his problem? He's always demanding respect from us but not Mom. Who cares about respect? I don't care about being respected. In fact, I don't want to be respected. Don't get me wrong; I don't want to be disrespect, either.That's a nice little piece of insight into your life. Although, I'm not quite sure if you expect sympathy or you want me to make a joke. I can't tell you how to deal with him because I never had to live with people like that. If I meet guys like that at parties, I immediately walk away or, depending on how I feel, slap them.

[Iconoclast]

That's a nice little piece of insight into your life. Although, I'm not quite sure if you expect sympathy or you want me to make a joke. I can't tell you how to deal with him because I never had to live with people like that. If I meet guys like that at parties, I immediately walk away or, depending on how I feel, slap them.No, if you're in a party, get a strawberry pie, smash it in their face, THEN slap them. They can't see you!...except for the part of the pie your hand slapped through.

No, JK, but thanks for the insight.

[pizzaman]

Hmm, well, he accepts the validity of stated opinions, even by me and my brother. Except when he's angry. Then he just likes to argue to get the last word. But, he can't help that. As he won't believe, anger is a disability. He is just not meant to understand that. He seems so paranoid to the fact that we're children. He's passive when mom 'disrespects', as he says, him, but he'd smack the **** out of us if we said anything to him that Mom said to him. He's probably annoyed at us being children like we're little imps picking on him, but I have done no such thing. What the hell is his problem? He's always demanding respect from us but not Mom. Who cares about respect? I don't care about being respected. In fact, I don't want to be respected. Don't get me wrong; I don't want to be disrespect, either.
Does your dad actually hit you hard? Or just hit you? I mean there's always a way to get him to calm down. Ask him if the whole family can go to the movies, out to eat, or some other family activity.

[Iconoclast]

Does your dad actually hit you hard? Or just hit you? I mean there's always a way to get him to calm down. Ask him if the whole family can go to the movies, out to eat, or some other family activity.Yes, there is always a way to calm him down. But I don't feel up for it. His anger makes me angry. And when I'm angry, I show no sensitivity to him.

[pizzaman]

Yes, there is always a way to calm him down. But I don't feel up for it. His anger makes me angry. And when I'm angry, I show no sensitivity to him.
Yes, but you have to. If he was nice to you, wouldn't you be nice back? It's the same thing around, he might think that you're the problem and not him.

[Kurt]

No, if you're in a party, get a strawberry pie, smash it in their face, THEN slap them. They can't see you!...except for the part of the pie your hand slapped through.

No, JK, but thanks for the insight.I have kicked asses at parties for trivial reasons, such as them (the asses) being fat and rude. Anyway, I guess I'm trying to say... most parties don't have strawberry pies. At least not the parties I go to. I don't know what kind of parties you go to, but they must be totally wild if they have pie!

[Iconoclast]

Yes, but you have to. If he was nice to you, wouldn't you be nice back? It's the same thing around, he might think that you're the problem and not him.I don't necessarily like that thought. We're BOTH the problem, not me or him alone. Or, I mean, we both have problems. But you do have a point here. If I was nice to him, he wouldn't be so ****ty. I really do believe you.

[pizzaman]

I don't necessarily like that thought. We're BOTH the problem, not me or him alone. Or, I mean, we both have problems. But you do have a point here. If I was nice to him, he wouldn't be so ****ty. I really do believe you.
I'm not trying to tell you what to do, you can do whatever you want, it's just that it'll be worth it( Or at least was for me. ). My dad right now is really cool, it's like he's a whole different person from when he was always ****ed off a couple of years back. I mean I can't say that that will happen if you're nice, but it's only common sense that he'll be nice back. Or at least nicer.

[cherko]

I'm confused...are you bragging? Because I don't care how lucky you are. Even so, congratulations.

I didn't mean to brag. It's as if I would ask you if you wanted pity with all your talk of your problems with your family. Do I care? I don't even know you. Seriously, I feel sorry for what you and many others in the same situation has gone through, but I don't think life's all bad. In that case, why do we live? Why don't we just all commit suicide?

I wonder if someone's going to recite Shakespeare soon...

[chaos master]

I'm not trying to tell you what to do, you can do whatever you want, it's just that it'll be worth it( Or at least was for me. ). My dad right now is really cool, it's like he's a whole different person from when he was always ****ed off a couple of years back. I mean I can't say that that will happen if you're nice, but it's only common sense that he'll be nice back. Or at least nicer.
Yea, my dad is less angry now than he was before. It may have to do with him getting older, or it may have something to do with our living quality going up a little (my mom went back to work so we now have more money, whic led to new stuff and the like). Before, we had just enough money to get by.

[pizzaman]

Yea, my dad is less angry now than he was before. It may have to do with him getting older, or it may have something to do with our living quality going up a little (my mom went back to work so we now have more money, whic led to new stuff and the like). Before, we had just enough money to get by.
CM, you should get a job. Go make your parents proud!

[chaos master]

CM, you should get a job. Go make your parents proud!
I want to, but there's nowhere to work in my town.

[pizzaman]

I want to, but there's nowhere to work in my town.
Oh I get what you mean. I'm lucky that my folks got a restaurant, I probably get more money that a lot of you. :p

[chaos master]

Oh I get what you mean. I'm lucky that my folks got a restaurant, I probably get more money that a lot of you. :p
How much money...?

[pizzaman]

How much money...?
I already said, two hundred fifty bucks a week. :D

[chaos master]

I already said, two hundred fifty bucks a week. :D
right, I didn't see it....