The Icon Mystery

[DarthBrady]

Ok, pardon me if this sounds stupid, but.....

I just logged in, and noticed a bunch of icons or "options" in the Forums That I have never seen Before. Some I understand, but some I do not. So I have a few questions:

These are what I am talking about. Until today they were never there..
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/200/newstuffwo6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

-First, are these New features?

-Are they available to everybody, or only Moderators?

and..

-What is the "Add Infraction" Button for? How does this system work?
(this one)http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6388/infractionby9.png (http://imageshack.us)
-What is the "Report Post" button For? Who does it report to, and how does this work?
(this one)http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4971/reprotpostgs5.png (http://imageshack.us)

The other new buttons ('IP address, post number, and muli-quote") seem pretty self explanaotory. But those others I would like to know more about, so I can use them correctly, if needed. It's always nice to get cool new features, and even nicer if I know what they do! ;)

So, Anybody Know anything about this?

[Iconoclast]

They were there yesterday, since admin upgraded to the current version of vBulletin. Those extra icons are user options.

http://www.coolrom.com/forums/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif

This is the multiquote option. Click the button for all of the posts you want to quote, then click the Quote button we all know to quote multiple posts in your reply.

The option with the red and yellow card is an useless moderator feature. Don't worry about it.

[DarthBrady]

They were there yesterday, since admin upgraded to the current version of vBulletin. Those extra icons are user options.

http://www.coolrom.com/forums/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif

This is the multiquote option. Click the button for all of the posts you want to quote, then click the Quote button we all know to quote multiple posts in your reply.

The option with the red and yellow card is an useless moderator feature. Don't worry about it.


I know what the multi quote button is, I mentioned that. :p

As for the others...
Regardless of whether they are "useless" or not, I still want to know what they are for, and what they are supposed to do.:skep:

[Crazed Dragon]

I know what the multi quote button is, I mentioned that. :p

As for the others...
Regardless of whether they are "useless" or not, I still want to know what they are for, and what they are supposed to do.:skep:read more on the new upgrades here (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186803) there alot there but you should check it out any ways. even I reasd most of it and I don't like reading long *** stuff like that :p

[BlueDragonMan]

Ok, pardon me if this sounds stupid, but.....

I just logged in, and noticed a bunch of icons or "options" in the Forums That I have never seen Before. Some I understand, but some I do not. So I have a few questions:

These are what I am talking about. Until today they were never there..
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/200/newstuffwo6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

-First, are these New features?

-Are they available to everybody, or only Moderators?

and..

-What is the "Add Infraction" Button for? How does this system work?
(this one)http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6388/infractionby9.png (http://imageshack.us)
-What is the "Report Post" button For? Who does it report to, and how does this work?
(this one)http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4971/reprotpostgs5.png (http://imageshack.us)

The other new buttons ('IP address, post number, and muli-quote") seem pretty self explanaotory. But those others I would like to know more about, so I can use them correctly, if needed. It's always nice to get cool new features, and even nicer if I know what they do! ;)

So, Anybody Know anything about this?

I have a feeling that all but the new multiqoute button and the report post button are for mods only. I dont get the see the IP addres or any of the other things up there. <.< >.> I'm special he used my post ^.^

[Iconoclast]

I have no idea what the Report Post option does. I've never dared test it out.

Other than that option and the multiquote option, yes, they are only available to moderators.

[Iconoclast]

Dude! What the hell is this?
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[Crazed Dragon]

I have no idea what the Report Post option does. I've never dared test it out.

Other than that option and the multiquote option, yes, they are only available to moderators.by guessing you would think it would notify admin about that post. I'll give a try next spamer or ad comes up then bring the new of what it did

oh DB did you see my lnk in my last post here? it should answer every thing you want to know and more

[Crazed Dragon]

Dude! What the hell is this?did you get that from clicking my link? :shocked: I copy the same one admin posted...maybe I'll go get a quote of the one he posted insted...

[BlueDragonMan]

Dude! What the hell is this?

I would like to know what that is too because I have been getting that also. Its weird. o.O

[chaos master]

I have no idea what the Report Post option does. I've never dared test it out.

Other than that option and the multiquote option, yes, they are only available to moderators.

The 'Report Post' button sends an email to the moderators and administrators of the forum the thread is in. I think it also shows up in the mod/admin CP. The report contains who reported it, why the reported it, their email, and a link to the offending thread. I've only recieved a couple of reported post emails and stuff.

Hey, now we can use the Infraction button against advertisers and such.

[Iconoclast]

The 'Report Post' button sends an email to the moderators and administrators of the forum the thread is in. I think it also shows up in the mod/admin CP. I've only recieved a couple of reported post emails and stuff.

Hey, now we can use the Infraction button against advertisers and such.You guys obviously didn't hear me before. Giving infractions does nothing! It's a waste of time. They don't do anything! What part of that does not make sense, everyone?

[Kameo]

The report button reports a bad post, it'll send a notification to the moderators of that forum, and one to Admin. I use it to report advertisements and such :).

The yellow/red thingy, it lets U warn other users, except for other moderators, only Admin. can do that :) .

But I think only moderators can see those things, other members can't use them anyway so I think it's only visible for us mods :) .


See my screenie for what the user infraction thingy does :) ....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/R4YNE/redyellow.jpg

[Crazed Dragon]

The 'Report Post' button sends an email to the moderators and administrators of the forum the thread is in. I think it also shows up in the mod/admin CP. The report contains who reported it, why the reported it, their email, and a link to the offending thread. I've only recieved a couple of reported post emails and stuff.

Hey, now we can use the Infraction button against advertisers and such.it doesn't do anything really, I've done it to a few ads just for fun to test it out and stuff. alls it does you choose the infration(there four choices) then you tell why you gave this inferaction. like I said it does nothing, but I do it for the hell for it to ads

[chaos master]

So, could we not use such a thing as the infraction system as an organized way of letting admin know who's misbehaving?

[Iconoclast]

So, could we not use such a thing as the infraction system as an organized way of letting admin know who's misbehaving?I don't think admin cares about having a whole database of information on who's naughty and who's nice. I mean, I assume our administrator isn't Santa Claus?

Not really. Giving points to users for spamming, flaming, etc. is no better way to keep track of their penalties than developing your own perception of them in your mind. In terms of numbers and points, it's not that much different unless you have a short memory.

[Kameo]

I don't think admin cares about having a whole database of information on who's naughty and who's nice. I mean, I assume our administrator isn't Santa Claus?

Not really. Giving points to users for spamming, flaming, etc. is no better way to keep track of their penalties than developing your own perception of them in your mind. In terms of numbers and points, it's not that much different unless you have a short memory.

What about a misbehaving member I know of, but U don't?? Don't U think it's easy for a system like this to tell U that he's on the mischievious end?? I'm really not going to send every one of U some PM saying who's behaving and who's not, a system like this takes care of that quite easily.

It is useful, in some way, Chaos Master is right about that in my opinion :) .


And it doesn't take a whole database, it's like Ur postcount, that doesn't take a whole database either ;) ....

[Iconoclast]

What about a misbehaving member I know of, but U don't?? Don't U think it's easy for a system like this to tell U that he's on the mischievious end?? I'm really not going to send every one of U some PM saying who's behaving and who's not, a system like this takes care of that quite easily.

It is useful, in some way, Chaos Master is right about that in my opinion :) .


And it doesn't take a whole database, it's like Ur postcount, that doesn't take a whole database either ;) ....What's the point of even keeping track of such users? All I know is that when an user screws up, moderate it. We don't need vBulletin to count 123s for us on how many times an user did this and that. If just one user on this whole site knows another user who's disobeyed the rules about 50 times, THEN we can PM admin or something and reason banning him/her. We don't all need to know about it. An user misbehaving...is not 9-11.

[Kameo]

We don't need VBulletin to keep track of our post counts either, pretty useless feature, same goes for to see how many replies R in a thread, or how many people have viewed the thread.

VBulletin also does not need to show us who's online, and who has been online for the past 24 hours. Who were the ones asking Admin. for showing us this longer than a couple of minutes??

Neither does it have to show us what time someone posted a message, or what time we last visited the forum, it's all pretty useless, but it's nice that it's there anyway.

If U don't want to use it, then don't, but I like this feature, and if I think I need to use it then I will do so. U don't like it, so don't use it, simple, isn't it??

[Crazed Dragon]

We don't need VBulletin to keep track of our post counts either, pretty useless feature, same goes for to see how many replies R in a thread, or how many people have viewed the thread.

VBulletin also does not need to show us who's online, and who has been online for the past 24 hours. Who were the ones asking Admin. for showing us this longer than a couple of minutes??

Neither does it have to show us what time someone posted a message, or what time we last visited the forum, it's all pretty useless, but it's nice that it's there anyway.

If U don't want to use it, then don't, but I like this feature, and if I think I need to use it then I will do so. U don't like it, so don't use it, simple, isn't it??your right there not needed, that why there called features. they're an extra lttle thing just to get more people to enjoy there time on forums. sure not everyone will like eacha dn every feature, but somme poele do like feature you don't(you as in other people, not just you Kameo and Icono) I like most the feature offered here and I use them as i see fit. simple, don't ***** if some using a feature you don't like(that is not directed at any one person) just ignore it. you can't? too freaking bad

[Iconoclast]

We don't need VBulletin to keep track of our post counts either, pretty useless feature, same goes for to see how many replies R in a thread, or how many people have viewed the thread.

VBulletin also does not need to show us who's online, and who has been online for the past 24 hours. Who were the ones asking Admin. for showing us this longer than a couple of minutes??

Neither does it have to show us what time someone posted a message, or what time we last visited the forum, it's all pretty useless, but it's nice that it's there anyway.

If U don't want to use it, then don't, but I like this feature, and if I think I need to use it then I will do so. U don't like it, so don't use it, simple, isn't it??Damn, you've got to be the opposite of me or something.

I had a previous alternate reply, saying that I am stressing this out too much, and whether we give infractions to users or not, it does not really matter. If it doesn't do anything, it doesn't matter. The only reason I was stressing it out was to proove that this feature is of no use to anyone on this site, including you.

I don't like it, I don't use it. It's so simple, it's what I've been doing (hint, hint), had you noticed. Your reply is basic, and not well thought-out, as you are telling me things that don't apply to the current situation. I don't like it, and I'm already not using it. You may feel a need in the infraction system, but your previous post has said nothing about why it's necessary, just after my previous post just prooved it unnecessary, or else you'd have something applicable to say about it.

^Sorry for my harsh words, if they seem harsh. But the point must be expressed.

No, all of these features are necessary, to me, IMO. I could be wrong, of course, but I'll say what I can. It is sometimes important to know when an user posted a post, and important to know who's been online in the past 24 hours. And what they're doing.

Why is it important to know the exact time an user posted a post? That's very hard for me to explain. It's like on http://www.pj64.net. Project64 v1.7 released! Some users are curious on the date the post was posted, possibly adjacent to when Project64 was released, others aren't and don't care. I understand. It is worthless, to you, but not me. But there isn't a problem with that. If it's worthless to you, that's fine; that's just a trait in us controlling how much we generally care or are curious about things. Some users care, others don't.

Why is it important to be able to tell what other users are currently doing? Some users, especially me, get a little impatient. Some users want to wait at the Who's Online section to wait to see an user looking at a thread they want updated. Some users want to see who's online, so they can tell if a certain user they expect to reply to a certain thread or private message you sent them as of the current time. And some users just generally care and are curious about what's going on. I'm surprised you thought being able to see who's online was worthless when I catch you looking at the Who's Online page once every one or two days.

Why is it important to be able to tell who has been online in the past 24 hours? Heh, I see the humor in that question! Even so, again, another question that can be answered with the general curiousity of those users who so happen to care, but also possibly because certain users are waiting for another user in particular to reply to a thread they started, for example. This user wants to see if this particular user was online in the past 24 hours, the amount of time this user was gone. They might fear that the person they expected to reply didn't when they were online and had the chance, thus able to sense that the user expected to reply actually ignored the reply, or somehow missed the reply.

OK, the post count I have to agree with you about. Such is only justified by general curiosity, and I can understand you when you call that worthless. In fact, mostly because it is a bit misleading. It is causing chaos master pride in having posted the most posts, which is strange.

And now, I answer you with admission. You're right when you say it's right for some users to care about the infraction system and use it, other users to not. I was being paranoid about other users doing things that they THOUGHT was necessary, whatever makes them 'happy', but really did nobody any harm. I was just being, once again, a parnoid 'dementor', trying to prove features and systems 'obsolete'. I never seem to learn from this mistake.

Now, what I really don't like to see users doing, is looking at the CoolROM Forums Index page, to search for new posts. I hate how chaos master is always using that method! Using this URL? http://www.coolrom.com/forums/index.php to search for new posts? It's stupid, man. It only shows you one updated thread per forum, while using the New Posts link at the top shows you all unread, updated threads within the past 24 hours. There are very rare exceptions as to when the Forums Index page catches new updates that the New Posts method doesn't, but I almost never use that method. And because chaos master is always using that method, 90 percent of the updated threads he catches...are in General Chat. The other 10 percent are the few he catches on the rare occasion that the Forums Index page so happens to show him an intriguing, updated thread outside of the General Chat forum, which he often browses the index of. I'm mod of PC Gaming/Emulation (duh, what's new, I know), and I pretty much almost never look at the index of that forum.

[Kameo]

Damn, you've got to be the opposite of me or something.

I had a previous alternate reply, saying that I am stressing this out too much, and whether we give infractions to users or not, it does not really matter. If it doesn't do anything, it doesn't matter. The only reason I was stressing it out was to proove that this feature is of no use to anyone on this site, including you.

I don't like it, I don't use it. It's so simple, it's what I've been doing (hint, hint), had you noticed. Your reply is basic, and not well thought-out, as you are telling me things that don't apply to the current situation. I don't like it, and I'm already not using it. You may feel a need in the infraction system, but your previous post has said nothing about why it's necessary, just after my previous post just prooved it unnecessary, or else you'd have something applicable to say about it.

^Sorry for my harsh words, if they seem harsh. But the point must be expressed.

No, all of these features are necessary, to me, IMO. I could be wrong, of course, but I'll say what I can. It is sometimes important to know when an user posted a post, and important to know who's been online in the past 24 hours. And what they're doing.

Why is it important to know the exact time an user posted a post? That's very hard for me to explain. It's like on http://www.pj64.net. Project64 v1.7 released! Some users are curious on the date the post was posted, possibly adjacent to when Project64 was released, others aren't and don't care. I understand. It is worthless, to you, but not me. But there isn't a problem with that. If it's worthless to you, that's fine; that's just a trait in us controlling how much we generally care or are curious about things. Some users care, others don't.

Why is it important to be able to tell what other users are currently doing? Some users, especially me, get a little impatient. Some users want to wait at the Who's Online section to wait to see an user looking at a thread they want updated. Some users want to see who's online, so they can tell if a certain user they expect to reply to a certain thread or private message you sent them as of the current time. And some users just generally care and are curious about what's going on. I'm surprised you thought being able to see who's online was worthless when I catch you looking at the Who's Online page once every one or two days.

Why is it important to be able to tell who has been online in the past 24 hours? Heh, I see the humor in that question! Even so, again, another question that can be answered with the general curiousity of those users who so happen to care, but also possibly because certain users are waiting for another user in particular to reply to a thread they started, for example. This user wants to see if this particular user was online in the past 24 hours, the amount of time this user was gone. They might fear that the person they expected to reply didn't when they were online and had the chance, thus able to sense that the user expected to reply actually ignored the reply, or somehow missed the reply.

OK, the post count I have to agree with you about. Such is only justified by general curiosity, and I can understand you when you call that worthless. In fact, mostly because it is a bit misleading. It is causing chaos master pride in having posted the most posts, which is strange.


All of those features U like so much R out of curiousity, because U want to know what's going on at a certain time, it's not adding something useful, really.

That user infraction, it is useful, it tells who's a spammer or an advertiser and such, the more points they have the more they have spammes/advertised, and eventually they'll get banned. I believe it is a nice feature, just because of this.

The user infraction isn't there to feed our curiousity, like all of those features U like so much, read all of the stuff I quoted, it's all because U R curious.

The user infraction tells us who's walking on the edge, so we can keep an eye on that user to keep him from going out of lines too much. It tells us something about someones behaviour here on the board, we R the moderators, we need to do this, that's what we R moderators for....

[Iconoclast]

All of those features U like so much R out of curiousity, because U want to know what's going on at a certain time, it's not adding something useful, really.

That user infraction, it is useful, it tells who's a spammer or an advertiser and such, the more points they have the more they have spammes/advertised, and eventually they'll get banned. I believe it is a nice feature, just because of this.

The user infraction isn't there to feed our curiousity, like all of those features U like so much, read all of the stuff I quoted, it's all because U R curious.

The user infraction tells us who's walking on the edge, so we can keep an eye on that user to keep him from going out of lines too much. It tells us something about someones behaviour here on the board, we R the moderators, we need to do this, that's what we R moderators for....Curiousity is one word for it. But, yes, many of my reasonings for the purpose of these features are justified by users caring, or being curious is another way to word it. But you may have noticed that I have also thrown in at least one other reason for each feature, except the post time.

I don't like them so much, I just think they can be useful at times. The infraction system...that I feel is a waste of my time. I understand that it can be used to keep track of how many times an user (why do they say "a user" instead of "an user"? It's stupid.) broke a rule.

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