Vista

[Gaara]

what does every think of vista im not sure my self i like the look of it but dont rely like the way its set out

[TempesT]

You're going to hear 1000s of replies saying "Vista takes up more resources than it gives out"

[Klendathu]

I wont be getting Vista until I build a new machine.
This one could probably handle it, but I don't feel like messing with it.

[Carlrt]

im using a mac............ ridley has got vista and whenever i hijack his computer i think its good, but there are some compatability issues with games like SOF which really anooyed me!

[ridley]

i ****ing Dled sof and it sed that the hardware wasnt rite or sumthin plus i found my sof disk and i got the exact same thing

trust me ppls stick with xp

[Iconoclast]

Vista's a lot better with image thumbnail viewing and things I happen to take advantage of, but they removed too many binary files, causing many crashes in various programs, especially certain emulators.

IE 7 with Vista actually downloads exponentially faster from what I've noticed.

[Agent Smith]

I wont be getting Vista until I build a new machine.
This one could probably handle it, but I don't feel like messing with it.

Yes I will not get vista untill I build a new machine too... I hate buying computer's from the store because you never really get what you want...

[jambog]

Not a big fan of Vista so far. The readyboost is nice, but I can do without it. I have a lot of trouble running some programs. I like the look of vista, but I got a program called VistaMizer for XP...makes XP look exactly like vista for most part.

As far as making the thumbnail view bigger, I use TweakUI powertoy for that. You can make thumbnails up to 256 pixels wide in XP with it.

So for now I use XP with VistaMizer and TweakUI.

[Iconoclast]

Yeah, although actually I meant things like stopping Thumbs.db from being generated (I HATE that file.) so it doesn't screw up texture-renaming. For example, take two textures, texture1.png and texture2.png, merge them together and name it texture2.png and the thumbnail view of that file refers to what the old file looked like. Obviously, this is a foolish thing to do, but I have come across necessary instances using the same technique.

And I'll check that program out :), not big on image-editing programs, I just use them wisely. All I'm stuck with for now is ArtIcons Pro and PSP 9. It would be nice if I had a texture-"duplicator".

[Klendathu]

Yes I will not get vista untill I build a new machine too... I hate buying computer's from the store because you never really get what you want...

That and you get all that CRAP you DON'T want. That what burns me about buying a premade/preloaded computer.

[Systemeth]

Don't like Vista yet.
Gonna have to get it for Starcraft, ****ing, two, though.
Not too pleased about that yet.

[Agent Smith]

That and you get all that CRAP you DON'T want. That what burns me about buying a premade/preloaded computer.

Yes true when I bought my emachine a few years back, back when I hardly knew anything about computers I let some sale's jackass talk me into buying this thing.... When I gained a little more knowlage about computers I could not upgrade like I wanted to... About a year ago the intel seabrezze motherbored went out I had it replaced with an MSI best thing I could have done....

[chaos master]

I just want my computer to be simple, fast, and have a lot of compatibility, so I'm fine with XP.

[Klendathu]

You can easily build a high end machine for half the cost of a retail machine.

[Agent Smith]

You can easily build a high end machine for half the cost of a retail machine.

My family's next computer I am going to build... Hopefully it won't be that expensive.

[kaosdeity]

That and you get all that CRAP you DON'T want. That what burns me about buying a premade/preloaded computer.

You mean you don't like all the antivirus crap that *****es at you when you try to open stuff!?

[Pouso-G]

Vista... Hm... If you got about an hour of time just read the link below to oopen your eyes...

A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection. (http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/%7Epgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html)

The funniest thing about it is:

Bought a HD-DVD PC with HD-DVD Movie Bundled. Could get ORIGINAL HD-DVD to run on the Vista PC it was bundled with...

No Vista for me as long as I don't have to! I got XP on my system since 1½ years, as they stopped support for Win98SE. It was hard work to get XP running as fast as 98 was before! But it's fixed now!

[Iconoclast]

Blocked by Windows Parental Controls haha.

[Pouso-G]

But why? There is no P0RN inside... :D

[Devante]

The only Problem I have with Vista is compatibility issues but other than that it alright

[Stroh]

I have some compatibility issues like some of my favorite old games don't work. Also some programs crash when you try to run them. The look is alright, but I had a "vista type look" with window blinds on XP... I need XP or linux on this laptop :(

[fiReBirD]

Vista sucks... Many programs aren't compatible with it, they made the OS "scared" of it's own harmless application, i.e. Minesweeper, every time you try to access something, the OS automatically asks you whether or not to continue with the goddamn action... The games list of Vista isn't even updated... Also, most of the time Vista tends to be too secure for it's own good... That's all I have to say in this matter...

[Devante]

Well I know for sure it was almost the same when Microsoft released XP so there a chance the might be able in the new Sevice Pack 1 (beta version out now for download http://www.ghacks.net/2007/10/14/download-windows-vista-service-pack-1-beta/) at for vista to fix these issues and make the OS overall better.

[Winston]

Alright a lot of people say they dislike vitsa, or vista "sucks". But they don't even know what their saying when they do. Sure theres a few bugs a few errors. But you have to consider all the different hardware, types of comuters (Compaq,Acer,Dell,HP,IBM,Gateway etc.) that have to have their drivers included in with the original disk. Theres alot of different parts to consider. AND if your computer is not compatible with vista "driver wise" the system update will most-likely find the dirver for you. You can also just as eaisly go online and download it.

Now i know you shouldn't have to do this. but if you really want vista for some people this is neccesary. And its vista's way of saying your computers is crap. UPGRADE lol.

Now Firebird also brings up the security issue. That can be turned off and on at any time. You don't know enough about vista if you don't even know this yet. The world is full of viruses. You wan't super protection? use that security, if you dont care abd you like who XP dealt with it? Well turn it off.

Devante is right about XP. There were also issues. Just as there were with many OS's. But vista has had a few more ommisions.But they also intend to release a service pack which i believe will be in February. So soon you can have an even easier experience using XP.

And that mention of the games list...Please lol. How many people here can honestly say they even use minessweeper on a regular basis. Why should they release new games anyways? If your getting vista just for some crummy games that usually work on a Pentium 1 no prob then you shouldn't have vista. Go back to Windows 95...

Anyways thats my big rant, I expect some kind of crticism, some kind of arguement, or maybe osmething good? For ym sake i hope someone argues my point..rant...so that i can enlighten them. haha.

[1Marko1]

Dude a bearer of Bad news but Vista is like thee most sucky ****tttyyy Microsoft System ever u need like 8GBs of Ram memory additional 2GB for applications u need 489 gigs of free space and dat concludes rich guys with rich atitudes go get yerself a vista and $pendMORE

[Winston]

The actual mininum requirements for vista basic are 512 megs of ram. recommended is 1 gig. For the full experiece ranging from basic even up to basic 2 gigs of ram should suit you. For a full installation you need 4 gigs of space it is i believe. Which would be the same most-likely for its competitor Mac Leopard.

If your hardrive doesn't have even 30 gigs of freshly formatting it and installing vista; you shouldn't even have XP. The fact you are a newbie is enough to why your answer is wrong and half-A**ed.

Leave now and never argue with me again. :P lol

[Klendathu]

Dude a bearer of Bad news but Vista is like thee most sucky ****tttyyy Microsoft System ever u need like 8GBs of Ram memory additional 2GB for applications u need 489 gigs of free space and dat concludes rich guys with rich atitudes go get yerself a vista and $pendMORE

If you don't have 10 gigs to spare then it's time to upgrade.
Recently I bought a 1TB HD off of Newegg.com for $179 I now have 1 and 3/4 TB's of space thats 1750 gigs. However I do not have Vista. I really don't see the necessity of having it at this time. I will most likely use Vista with my new build.

[1Marko1]

my brother Homerhellson bought Vista and he $pend$more than me so he is a total morroni am right for the first time OOOHH MOOMA

[Andy]

Hey, I got a vista and it works better than any computer Ive had in the past (givin the fact that Ive had crappy computers before), runs fast as hell too, but I got DSL so its also 30 bucks a month but whatever, I have lots of memory and Im completly happy with it.

Vista sucks... Many programs aren't compatible with it, they made the OS "scared" of it's own harmless application, i.e. Minesweeper, every time you try to access something, the OS automatically asks you whether or not to continue with the goddamn action... The games list of Vista isn't even updated... Also, most of the time Vista tends to be too secure for it's own good... That's all I have to say in this matter...

So you'd rather it not be protective at all and let every virus in the known universe onto your computer? I admit its really secure, but, hey, it keeps those damn viruses off my computer.

[Systemeth]

Winston is quite the humourous fellow.

[Holland Guy]

i've only tried it on my cousin's computer.
it looks pretty flash, but i like to keep things golden old, so i don't think i'm gonna gettit if i get the chance.

[1Marko1]

IT SUCKS but they are making an updated version of Vista called Widnows 7

a.k.a blackberry or sth like that

[1Marko1]

Suck If U Are Rich Go Ahead And Buy Vista

[Winston]

Yes, I am quite the funny one. But If your referring to my belief in vista's great capalities then NOT very appreciated.

But, If yur referring to my pointing out of peoples computer illiterism, thanks.

Vista is cheper than previous versions of windows mind you Marko. $700 dollars I believe was the original market price (For XP). Vista was much cheaper. I'm not even sure if Ultimate first sold for $700. So please post your ignorance somewhere else. Hehe

[Sonic]

Got Vista when I bought a new computer earlier this year. It's surprisingly good compared to all the hate I read on the net. Haven't experienced anything bad with it yet, looks simple enough to handle. I'm a PC Tech and had no trouble adjusting from XP to Vista.

[Winston]

Exactly, There Is Nothing Wrong With Vista. I'll Admit At The Beginning There Were A Few Bugs. But I Got It Really Early...No Complaints to this day.

The Fact of the matter is, people compare it to mac OS and older versions of Windows and expect vista to excel like its predecessors. For Pro Mac users, you have to realize your brand only has to create drivers with compatibility to its own brand and NOT to any other. Microsoft has to consider thousands of different computer parts or brands...Dell,IBM,HP,Asus,Acer To Name a Few.

I've already made my point on this thread and have just made it again. I await an arguement haha.

[Sonic]

You get no argument from me. I know exactly what you mean since my final exam in college for graduation was fix a Mac, that brought my grade down from A- to like C+ or B-, it was a damn pain. Everything was so brand specific, whereas with PC you had more to handle. Novell and Linux got me a B+ but Mac was my downfall where I just got a brain freeze.

[Iconoclast]

I guess I can note there were more complaints by observants of packaging changes than people using computers for business purposes right, but some of those changes were visible to me...depending on what I use this thing for.

Right now there are more known stability issues with emulators because some component binaries were removed for runtime packaging changes, and any Microsoft critic would take the opportunity to laugh. Also Windows' new media player shell misses a lot of MIDI instrumental effects in complex files compared to the previous version, and I noticed the browser that comes with Vista--IE 7--still didn't fix the GIF animations speeds. But most people are complaining about download hacks and leftover security problems rather than what I look for.

[Sonic]

Key difference for me was administration of files. Like if you don't right click > run as admin, the file could run wrong. I got a program called Unlocker that helped me when I couldn't delete anything and was stuck going "Why?!"

[Winston]

Haha. Well You Can Always download firefox or IE 8, Google Chrome, Safari...Mac But Not The OS..There Are Other Options. I HAVE noticed the MIDI problem. Thats Why I have Finale Notepad, And Other Media Player's.

The Security Issue, if your reffering to the constant permission requirements, CAN be removed. And if someone is worried about viruses, well download an anti virus program lol. Not too hard is it? People just expect everything to be perfect I guess. But there will ALWAYS be bugs, MAC or PC

[Winston]

You Can Set Yourself As Administrator Of Everything WITHIN the capabilities of vista.

[Iconoclast]

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/953818.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2005/feb05/02-15Updates.mspx

Now they don't talk about FireFox, but FireFox doesn't talk about them. FireFox is constantly updated with changes by comparison, but Windows can be attacked through IE 7.

And ya I use Winamp for everything now.

[Sonic]

I use Foobar2000 and VLC Player for everything...a combination.

[Winston]

VLC Is Amazing.

And Firefox Has A Sweet Add-On PicLens, And Cool Iris.

Download Them You'll Love It.

[Sonic]

Holy crap, that IS an awesome plugin. Thanks!

[Winston]

I Know. It Makes Browsing That Much More Fun.

Haha

[Sonic]

Yeah, it's amazing what programs can do these days. With Vista what I liked is that desktop feature where it has flip 3d, switch between windows.

[Darth Gazak]

Vista seems to put so much padding on everything; it's hard for a power user to fully control the operating system. Plus, i hate how it ask for permissions all the time, even though I am the goddamn chief administrator!

Then, they go a change the names of most of the menus/control panels, meaning it can get confusing changing settings.

Apart from the overwhelming attempt at user freindliness, i like the appearence of vista and its utilities are vastly improved over previous iterations.

[Winston]

Yes, But As I Mentioned The Permission Settings Can All Be Turned Off. And Even When Your Set As Chief Admin, You Will Notice For Almost Every Folder In Your Computer Your Are Not The Admin.

This Can All Be Changed Within the Security Tab If You Acess It Through Properties on A Right Click. and You Can Set Yourself As Admin. This Effect Can Be Applied To The Entire Hard Drive Too. Or you Can Turn Off Security Options...But That Doesn't Mean You Have To Turn Off Your Anti-Virus...so your still safe haha.

The Menus and Control Panel do have the option to switch to classic. And Isn't A New OS All About Change Anyways?

[Darth Gazak]

I switched to classic immediately when i saw the grotesque new control panel, but the user friendly version was alson in XP, and i got rid of it then, too.

Vista is fine for what i do, i have no instability or system crashes. Nicely backward compatible too. The only thing is, some dynamic link libraries are missing from vista, and ceratain applications use them. It can be a pain to track down the dll over the web sometimes.

[Winston]

Thats True. Whenever I Have A Problem With Anything On My laptop, vista usually immediately downloads whatever neccesary via system update and its all good again.

[LittleWolf]

I switched to classic immediately when i saw the grotesque new control panel, but the user friendly version was alson in XP, and i got rid of it then, too.

Vista is fine for what i do, i have no instability or system crashes. Nicely backward compatible too. The only thing is, some dynamic link libraries are missing from vista, and ceratain applications use them. It can be a pain to track down the dll over the web sometimes.


Vista is great...but it sure ain't for me, what with frustrating bsods and all :mad2:
Certainly a no go. Vista is cool...but when it comes down to stability issues...it simply sucks :mad: I'll stick to my all time favourite windows xp pro sp 2. SP 3 is useless too, but I suppose thats another topic on its own.

[Winston]

I Have Had Virtually No Stability Issues. Virtually Because, Only At The Start Of Having Vista Did I Have Any Initial Problems. For The Last Year Or So...No Problems. If Some People Have Stability Issues You May Just Have A Crap Computer :P.

I Had A Lot Of Problems With Laptop Video Cards...I'd Always Have The Incorrect Driver When I'd Install Vista On A Laptop...For Example I'd Get The 200M Instead The Xpress 1100. Or Instead Of HD2600 Mobility M76M..Although Apparently Its The Same Thing. And Sometimes A Stupid VGA Driver. And Then I'd Have To Wait For Windows Update To Find It. I Also Had Issues With Trying To Play 5.1 Surround...Yes I Am Compatible With It But It Wouldn't Work. Im Stuck With Stereo :P

But Thanks To SP1 A lot Of Minor And A few Major Problems Were Solved. As It Is Now There Are Obviously Still Kinks...There ALWAYS Will Be, But you Can Only Fine Tune It So Far. I Await SP2 And Many Other Updates Until My Version And Everyoen Elses Version Of Vista Has Hit Perfection :P

[LittleWolf]

I Have Had Virtually No Stability Issues. Virtually Because, Only At The Start Of Having Vista Did I Have Any Initial Problems. For The Last Year Or So...No Problems. If Some People Have Stability Issues You May Just Have A Crap Computer :P.

I Had A Lot Of Problems With Laptop Video Cards...I'd Always Have The Incorrect Driver When I'd Install Vista On A Laptop...For Example I'd Get The 200M Instead The Xpress 1100. Or Instead Of HD2600 Mobility M76M..Although Apparently Its The Same Thing. And Sometimes A Stupid VGA Driver. And Then I'd Have To Wait For Windows Update To Find It. I Also Had Issues With Trying To Play 5.1 Surround...Yes I Am Compatible With It But It Wouldn't Work. Im Stuck With Stereo :P

But Thanks To SP1 A lot Of Minor And A few Major Problems Were Solved. As It Is Now There Are Obviously Still Kinks...There ALWAYS Will Be, But you Can Only Fine Tune It So Far. I Await SP2 And Many Other Updates Until My Version And Everyoen Elses Version Of Vista Has Hit Perfection :P

My computer runs Vista completely smoothly, I ain't one to stock up on crappy computers thank you :nono:
I'm not going to go through the trouble of typing out the specs, but performance wise, Vista runs really fast and smoothly on my computer. But after all the updates, fixes and getting the latest drivers etc. for just about everything...Vista still goes bsod on me. Vista was obviously not meant to be for my machine. As for xp pro, SP2 does its job well :p and I'll recommend Windows XP Pro SP2 over Vista to anyone, simply because there's much less problems to deal with :D

[Sonic]

At first it was a pain in the ***, but then I got used to it and adjusted. Main difference is permission, the rest is pure laziness on not wanting to learn new names.

[LittleWolf]

At first it was a pain in the ***, but then I got used to it and adjusted. Main difference is permission, the rest is pure laziness on not wanting to learn new names.

I couldn't agree more...put me in with them lazy croud :D

[Winston]

Computers Adapt So Should Humans. =P

[Wicked_Will]

Vista's very good for me, at least until I try to play any decent games on my computer, mainly because I still have the stock graphics card that originally came with the computer. Which sucks. So until I can get a better one, I'll just have to deal with poor graphics games and the like. :(

[Sonic]

I've adapted...it just took a whole lot longer to learn the names, since XP just updated but didn't completely change the names of everything.

[Winston]

You can also download most of the extras that came with ulitmate and add it to the other verions. Not very hard. Personally XP is better for gaming. Vista is better for the "home user". Like you said Valarion, pretty icons and cuteness. Hey, I like it haha. And it gives a user friendly look. The cuter the easier. If only that were true...hehe

[Viney]

vista is great, i have premium. What do the ones above premium have extra?

[PreyOnTheWeak]

Most things that are used for business and keeping track of Taxes and Numbers...It really doesn't matter which you get, because like Winston said you can D/L most of the addons anyways. XP is great, and takes less space and memory to run XD The only PC that I have that uses Vista is my class/work PC which I use for Design only.

[MurderMayhem666]

vista is great, i have premium. What do the ones above premium have extra?

:) I like Vista too, i never have problems with it, but i don't know why microsoft had to release Vista so soon because i know XP wasn't to long before Vista:).

[Winston]

:) I like Vista too, i never have problems with it, but i don't know why microsoft had to release Vista so soon because i know XP wasn't to long before Vista:).

Thats True and because it was a little rushed is probably why it started out with a lot of compatablility issues. They had to make competition against Macintosh's new releases. So thats why I mentioned "rushed". But There could of been alternatives.... I mean as in things they could have used to make XP look "prettier". Transparent Windows, and New icons.. But now i'm kind of veering off in to windows blinds...

Fact is, vista was pretty bad at one point in respects to that a lot of the hardware on consumer's computers would not even register haha. I mean my video card was set to basic VGA for about a week and i was stuck with 800X600 Resolution and 16 bit colour until windows update found the driver for it. But now with the release of the service packs, and many many many updates, most people are pretty satisfied.

The ones above premium... go to www.microsoft.com (http://www.microsoft.com) I'm sure they have a great comparison to show you. But it's all in the name; how I like to think of it is basic is for people who want something new on an old computer. Premium is for those who want the pretty things, and something new. Business is for companies who want to look like there making changes and "adapting" to the world, plus it has many business friendly tools. Ultimate is for either home or business, or home and business. It covers everything in all of the vistas so bascially benefits anyone.

I'm quite satisfied with home premium though. I don't need anything past it. But I also dual-boot to XP. XP is for gaming, Vista for school work. I highly reccomend XP to those who want to game. A good example of the difference of the two, is try playing oblivion on XP and on Vista. If your PC is in the range (or mac YUCK) of the recommened setting you will see a huge difference. But then again you can just as easily on Vista change the theme to windows classic and turn off a lot of the pretiness in my computer/ advanced settings. But THEN AGAIN, you probably didn't get vista so you could see something even further back then XP! ( why they didn't put XP's Theme in the package IDK ).

So...Thats my rant on this thread until further notice. :D

[MurderMayhem666]

Thats True and because it was a little rushed is probably why it started out with a lot of compatablility issues. They had to make competition against Macintosh's new releases. So thats why I mentioned "rushed". But There could of been alternatives.... I mean as in things they could have used to make XP look "prettier". Transparent Windows, and New icons.. But now i'm kind of veering off in to windows blinds...

Fact is, vista was pretty bad at one point in respects to that a lot of the hardware on consumer's computers would not even register haha. I mean my video card was set to basic VGA for about a week and i was stuck with 800X600 Resolution and 16 bit colour until windows update found the driver for it. But now with the release of the service packs, and many many many updates, most people are pretty satisfied.

The ones above premium... go to www.microsoft.com (http://www.microsoft.com) I'm sure they have a great comparison to show you. But it's all in the name; how I like to think of it is basic is for people who want something new on an old computer. Premium is for those who want the pretty things, and something new. Business is for companies who want to look like there making changes and "adapting" to the world, plus it has many business friendly tools. Ultimate is for either home or business, or home and business. It covers everything in all of the vistas so bascially benefits anyone.

I'm quite satisfied with home premium though. I don't need anything past it. But I also dual-boot to XP. XP is for gaming, Vista for school work. I highly reccomend XP to those who want to game. A good example of the difference of the two, is try playing oblivion on XP and on Vista. If your PC is in the range (or mac YUCK) of the recommened setting you will see a huge difference. But then again you can just as easily on Vista change the theme to windows classic and turn off a lot of the pretiness in my computer/ advanced settings. But THEN AGAIN, you probably didn't get vista so you could see something even further back then XP! ( why they didn't put XP's Theme in the package IDK ).

So...Thats my rant on this thread until further notice. :D

:) LOL, I noticed that you hate the Mac, so do i, LOL.:)

[Viney]

In which vista do you get the 3d desktop thingy. I really want to check that out?? Ive got premium. Anyone know?

[Winston]

Its Premium. At the bottom right hand side of the screen it should look like a bow outlines in white with 3 windows inside. It will only be activated if your PC has the aero theme on, and if you have more than or as much as 128 Megs of video memory.

YES I HATE MAC.

They are very overpriced!

[MurderMayhem666]

:) I just thought of another reason i love Vista. The DVR , i swear i must have every episode of "Frisky Dingo" saved on it.:) "boosh" :)

[abcd88888]

everything windows OS out there now it loaded with crap...i miss the good old days of straight up dos...kick'n it old school

[Winston]

Maybe DOS Kept us all at the same level but I'm pretty sure you must notice some "MINOR" differences in the architecture? Oh, And might I add A GUI. The GUI Idea was great.... lol.

I mean having a mouse and moveable objects and icons is just a little bonus right?

hahahahahaha.....

[DarkXknight]

ppl that hate on vista are ppl who

A) had a bad experience due to hardware insufficiency

B) are complete retards

C) jumping on the hate wagon (90%) of people.

[Winston]

ppl that hate on vista are ppl who

A) had a bad experience due to hardware insufficiency

B) are complete retards

C) jumping on the hate wagon (90%) of people.

Yeah Very true. But its all about first impressions right. I mean you get one problem and people assume its the crappiest system in the world. But thats what being computer illiterate is ALLLL about haha. Like you said "retards" :p.

Microsoft had to release it a bit earlier to generate competition with the Macintosh's new OS. And they paid the price. But people are starting to come around. Especially because if you buy virtually any PC now, its going to likely come with SP1 Vista.

And PC's Dominate 90% of the market, so 90% of people have vista, or XP. (with the rare few who still have ME dooowwnnnn to 1.0 haha). So I wouldn't worry about it anyhow..

[Kilghard Wolf]

(with the rare few who still have ME dooowwnnnn to 1.0 haha)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I have a PC with ME! ROFL!

[Winston]

Well... Me Isn't that bad. It's Buggy Though, and not compatible with a great deal things... especially in comparison to XP and Windows Vista.. or 7.0 as well. And there's always windows blinds

[Kilghard Wolf]

Ja, I never had a problem with it till I dropped a .dll file somewhere along the way... now I cant install my wireless card. On top of that, I went to try and fix it myself, and now I get an error message with MSHTML.dll every time I open something other than WMP. Now it's a giant stereo :D

[Winston]

Well you just look for your manufacturer if its a pre built computer and then DL all drivers from there, or, download specific drivers off most anywhere for each piece of hardware, or install a good OS! haha

Windows update is there for a reason bud hehe merry christmas by the way

[crash]

i have windows xp sp3 and like to have it for the next 100 years.i dont like
Vista at all.

[Winston]

Well Enjoy not having multi-touch functionality, or having any new relases of anyh software or games compatible with your computer, and good luck utilizing the full capabilities of all computer upgrades to come hardware wise.

[crash]

well i have vista also,because i have 2 computers

[Iconoclast]

Hey Winston remind me what you did to cover up the removed sound driver information for MIDI support? With the missing instruments

[Winston]

Haha When Did I bring that up.

Are we talking the MIDI Mapper Gay Crap, or for a certain program. Such as... Finale Notepad.

[Iconoclast]

I don't have anything for now. Anything that supports MIDIs misses instruments, in fact some VG MIDI re-mixes are completely silent in large sections.

Converting to an MP3 via data analysis for a new complete mix does give me an idea of what the original sounded like, though. I still need to know how to cover up the removed drivers.

[Winston]

Could you not just download them? Search the internet and then download them. Theres also a program called driver detective I believe that scans for everything that can be updated or is missing, and then it will download them for you...

[Iconoclast]

I can't install anything on a limited Vista account, until I figure out how to adjust to the recent password change...or get to the registry.

Now what did you do dammit? :D You mentioned it in this thread, what you had to do about the lack of MIDI support. I'll have to find it tomorrow.

[Winston]

There's programs for that too haha..

Um To be honest, I have no memory of this. Update....Direct X? Lmao

I have a physics test... on waves and sound though lmao should be pretty easy but i'm still going to study... so a little unavailable

[Iconoclast]

I HAVE noticed the MIDI problem. Thats Why I have Finale Notepad, And Other Media Player's.

It was less than I thought, but still I just ran out of time last night to find something easy like that. I'll task this for when I make that other adjustment and thanks.

[Winston]

Haha That must be like 2 or 3 years old.

[Viney]

ive changed my mind about vista, it sucks.

[orange_julius]

if you turn off all the idiot modules for holding the hands of the computer illiterate...i.e. user control, the weird 3-d alt tab - its actually quite nice!

[Winston]

Well now all those things are obsolete thanks to 7.0

[SirAllred]

vista failed. end of discussion. :mad2:

[dvdsna5]

im using vista right now, and it works great!

[gamelegend100]

vista seems pretty good to me but then again i am no expert.

[Agent Smith]

vista seems pretty good to me but then again i am no expert.

I have not had any real problems with vista nor do I like dislike it so far.
The only small problem I have had was changing the language pak in vista home from German to English to German again. But I all ready took care of that.

[Viney]

i want a mac :(

[Winston]

Not true at all.

It matters what you are using your computer for; for one.

Secondly, Windows and Mac are definitely more appealing to people. They are User-Friendly. Not so much Linux or React in Comparison ( Looking from a Consumer point of view ) . You could have stuck Ubuntu on that list too.

[Darth Gazak]

You could have stuck Ubuntu on that list too.

Ubuntu is Linux. There are many different distributions available.


That being said, of course I'm using Vista now.

The majority of Linux users also have a computer or dual boot configuration with a Windows version installed, but the reverse is rarely true. I know you are party to a bit of React tinkering, and i myself dual boot Intrepid with Vista :)

I do find myself using Windows more often than Ubuntu, but there's a rather trivial reason behind it; i simply cannot get Ubuntu to output sound to all 6 of my 5.1 channel speaker system, yet it's all plug and play with Vista. Of course, if i had the knowledge, time and will, the problem could be easily solved, but unfortunately convenience overwhelms my desire to use Linux currently.

Anyone care to liberate me? :D

[MK74]

Well... I was in the Beta Testing program for vista... I must say that at first I was pretty excited, but in the end it turned out to be kind of dissapointing :(
See, graphics ar pretty damn cool (and before someone starts, yes, I know Linux & MAC had this kind of graphics before :D) but it requires a lot of hardware, and in the end, that was one of the reasons nobody wanted to move from XP.
Now, for the compatibility issues that everyone and their mother is rambling about, I have to say that this same issue happened when M$ released Windows 2000 and our beloved XP... in the days folowing their release, almost no one was sure how to connect their old printer, scanner or whatever. What's worse, most applications had compatibility problems too.
So, just be patient and pretty much all the problems will be solved one way or another :)
Right now, Windows 7 is about to come out... and for what I've seen, 7 is Vista, just fixed, fine-tuned and with more features.

C Ya ' round!

[R3D_-_N3CK]

i have vista and never have problems like others have and i like it better then xp

[nubpwn3r]

1 thing i hate about vista is that it constantly asks for my permission to run games...after i i've started running the program:mad2:

[tatsuya1221]

1 thing i hate about vista is that it constantly asks for my permission to run games...after i i've started running the program:mad2:

Turn off user account control, that will stop it, as long as your not using another person's pc.
Also, did you need to bump a 2 month old post?

[Winston]

Haha So true,

But your right. Just turn it off... I hate people who judge that of which they do not know.

[kimaprilvis2204]

i hate the f...cking vista i hate everything about it ..especially the security warnings

love xp!jeaj

[kimaprilvis2204]

but you'r right you can turn the security warnings off

but you have to admit that games run smoother on xp than on vista even on a high-end PC

[galliance]

XP is much better than Vista atm.
but for beginners Vista is better i think!.

[McNultyyy]

Windows 98 ftw.
Vista < OSX

[pharaoh45]

Vista is just meh.
It's way better than OSX though.

[Winston]

Get Windows 7 RTM Then. All of you.

[DreXxiN]

Get Windows 7 RTM Then. All of you.

This. This times 100.

[Maelick]

yeh i used to hate it too until it got up to service pack 2...now i have no problems with it...of course i got an INSANE graphics card and 4.20 mhz dual so

[Winston]

This. This times 100.

Windows Vista is clearly now a piece of crap. Even with all the service packs.. Windows 7 is the best a PC can get haha. Definitely competition to the Snow Leaopard Mac Counter-part.

So yup, times 100 haha.

[Winston]

yeh i used to hate it too until it got up to service pack 2...now i have no problems with it...of course i got an INSANE graphics card and 4.20 mhz dual so

I didn't think they made 4.20 Duals, you must have over-clocked?

[Darth Gazak]

Windows 7 is the best a PC can get haha.


Free your mind (www.ubuntu.com)

I hate Vista with a passion. My hatred was justified yesterday. I was ripping a DVD onto my laptop, a process which takes around 4 hours. Progress had reached 80% when Vista decides that this was a good time to restart AUTOMATICALLY and install updates. Of course, i had to restart the entire process once the reboot was complete. And what exactly made these updates so essential? Beats me. Thank you Microsoft.

[Iconoclast]

Recently the last time I was set to restart for installing Vista updates it took longer than five minutes installing six updates and doing other steps.

Not that I notice anything myself.

I use Vista more so that I can troubleshoot for other people (and a bit just because it's newer). If it really does suck, I find that more reason to get used to it. :eek: not really like that

[Blace]

Vista... Hmm... Long story short... Fail! :mad3:

[Winston]

Free your mind (http://www.ubuntu.com)

I hate Vista with a passion. My hatred was justified yesterday. I was ripping a DVD onto my laptop, a process which takes around 4 hours. Progress had reached 80% when Vista decides that this was a good time to restart AUTOMATICALLY and install updates. Of course, i had to restart the entire process once the reboot was complete. And what exactly made these updates so essential? Beats me. Thank you Microsoft.

Ubuntu is neat, but I have an ATI card and its is extreme BS trying to get it to work.