Third War In Iran

[Eskimosik]

Hello

What do you think about this? When it happens?

[tatsuya1221]

Do you mean third world war?
When:when terrorists attack saudi arabia and stop oil production completely.
Why:No oil,no economy,bush has his reason to attack iran,but china and russia get their oil from there...alot of scientists are afraid of this possibility as well:(

[fiReBirD]

What the f**k is the point of thes thread...? It's nonsensical...

[Kameo]

What the f**k is the point of thes thread...? It's nonsensical...

Why?? He's just asking us what we think of it. That's not nonsensical, it's actual. Read some newspapers, or watch the news. I'm constantly hearing how the US is threathening to attack Iran.....

[Klendathu]

The guy makes 1 post on an emulation board, and it's about a third war in Iran. Apparently they had two others. What would a 3rd war do to a country that's already decades behind? Who knows? Perhaps keep them in the stone age a bit longer. Iran is a terrorist country. They plan on making a Muslim only car, complete with a compass that points toward Mecca, and a special compartment to hold the Koran. I don't see the economic potential of a Muslim only car, because this could be done with any car. Slap a compass on it throw the Koran in the glove compartment and BAM Muslim car. Also most Muslims are very poor in the Middle East how would they afford such a vehicle. I can see the Manufacturer of such a vehicle with governmental backing cause a total collapse of the Iranian economy that war would break out. Now I'm not saying that all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim.

[Kameo]

Well, Iran is a muslim country, I read something about 95% of its citizens is muslim. So while it doesn't make much sense for us to have such a car, it does for them. And since it's their own country, they can build any car they'd like. Kinda like Hitler did with Volkswagen in the 1930's, a cheap, decent car that any citizen can afford.

And U don't really want to start a war with Iran. The US has angered the worldwide muslim population already, attacking Iran isn't exactly going to make things better. Iraq might have had a ****ty army, but Iran sure does have a much better equipped one, contrary to what the US government is trying to make us believe.

The US can't even defeat a couple of guerillas in Iraq, or Pakistan/Afghanistan. How R they going to fight even more of them?? Osama bin Laden still hasn't been captured with all the high tech vs. stone age weaponry, so yea, there's goes something.

And the US has created an incredible debt with the war on terror so far, U think they can even afford another war, on another front??

Also, Iraq was hated by most muslims because of Saddam, but Iran is on the other end.

If there's going to be a war in Iran, all hell is going to break lose, and I surely don't want to be in the middle of that :p .....

[otacon]

Um... Actually, I think the possibility of a warin Iran is very slim. The US will probably use airstrikes and commandoes to attempt to destroy what they think are nuclear facilities, if Iran doesn't cease it's nuclear program, which of course it will not.

A war of Iraq's kind will never happen in Iran. The US has learned it's lesson, and Gordon Brown will never follow the US into a war, after seeing what Iraq did to people's confidence in Blair.

[Doregushin]

Well, I havent heard about the topic recently, so this is new news to me.
New news is new.

[PYRO_JUNKY]

as long as this war doesnt cut into my tea time i dont care

[Klendathu]

Well, Iran is a muslim country, I read something about 95% of its citizens is muslim. So while it doesn't make much sense for us to have such a car, it does for them. And since it's their own country, they can build any car they'd like. Kinda like Hitler did with Volkswagen in the 1930's, a cheap, decent car that any citizen can afford.



A cheap car that's funny considering how a gallon of gas will cost most Iranians about one months earned wages. If they can't put gas in it they can't drive the cheap car that they can't afford anyways.

[Kameo]

Iran is the fourth oil producing country in the world, they have about 10% of the worldwide oil reserves in their ground, so I don't think it will be a problem for them to get cheap oil.

I can't find a more recent statistic, so I'll use the one from the year 2002.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/oil.html


Reserves
(millions of barrels as of January 1, 2002):

Iran: 89,700
United States: 22,045


Production
(millions of barrels per day):

United States: 8.091
Iran: 3.775


Consumption
(Millions of barrels per day):

United States: 19.993
Iran: 1.109

So yea, while the US is importing half of its oil, Iran is exporting 2/3 of their production. Starting a war with Iran will make the prices in the US go up as it will put the oilmarket under pressure, kinda like it's doing now with the war in Iraq. Iran won't be affected much by this, as they'll still sell their oil to China and Russia and make even better money on it as the price of oil is going up.


Read here as well: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/oil.htm

Iran really won't be affected much.


Anyway, if there's going to be a war with Iran, it's just to ensure the US is getting more oil. Kinda like why they attacked Iraq. But this time they'll anger even more people, and might bring the war on terror to their own soil with such actions. It's not like the world is still on the side of the US, which is the opposite from how it was right after 9/11. Which wasn't a attack on the "free west" but just an attack against America .....

[tatsuya1221]

You make a good point,but the oil supply can make people go insane,i wouldn't put it past bush to start a war with iran over oil,but the bigger problem is that russia and china won't sit around and let it's oil supply drop,which will bring about another world war,this time with nuclear weapons.
No matter what happens,as the world is now,it's only a matter of time until countries start wars over oil,they say that we won't be able to get back to the supply amounts that we had...which means that we should expect 5.00-10.00$ gas prices soon in the U.S.,and the EU will be even higher:(

[Kameo]

I doubt that, the biggest oil fields R on the north and south poles. Just gotta wait for them to melt to get it out :) .....

[Klendathu]

The Production of Oil has nothing to do with the price per gallon of gas.
It's Supply and Demand. Theres something like 30 cars per 1,000 Adults in Iran.

I doubt that, the biggest oil fields R on the north and south poles. Just gotta wait for them to melt to get it out :) .....

You don't have to wait for the ice to melt. You have to drill.

[tatsuya1221]

I doubt that, the biggest oil fields R on the north and south poles. Just gotta wait for them to melt to get it out :) .....

While it's true that the biggest fields are at the north and south pole,there are already arguments starting over who has the rights to those fields.
And so you know,the U.S. has more coal than the middle east has oil,which can be made into oil,but it takes excessive refinement,and the oil may exist in those wells,but they basically can only extract anywhere between 10-30% of it.
And klendathu,your right about the amount of cars,but people don't want to give up their way of life,as you said"supply and demand"will make the u.s. and china go nuts eventually,because the use of oil in the u.s. and china is still expanding,and they aren't going to stop using oil just to make the other countries happier,as i said,if a war starts with iran,it will most likely be over oil.
When that happens,the u.s.,china and russia will probably be at each others throats.