Burning Images To CD

[dtfreak05]

I just tried to burn an image file back to disc using Alcohol. the burn worked and it runs off the cd when i use an emulator (pSX) but it won't load on my ps2, I get the message telling me to insert a playstation or playstation 2 format disc. is there a certain way to do it to be able to play it on an actual playstation or is that just not possible?

[dawnshine1979]

To be able to play backups CD ISO's on a PS or PSOne, you will need a Modchip. Info about the install can be found here
http://www.modchip.ca/install/ps/101/101.php

You can also use a Disc Swap method similiar to the Sega Saturn. You basically boo the PS with an origianl Disc in, wait for PS to initialize, then swap the discs just before the game is supposed to boot. I never tried this with my saturn becuase I read that jerking thespindle will ruin the motor, and saturn's aren't near as common and PSOnes. My advive is get a modchip. If you've ever done any kind of soldering, you should be able to put it in with no problems...
helpful tips on soldering...
If you have to solder to legs of a chip, try soldering on the other side of the board where the solder is already present. you can also use scotch tape to "mask off" the other legs to prevent the solder from bridging a gap.

I installed a modchip in my saturn with no problems, only had to solder one wire to the power supply, and another wire to the modchip board itself, the PS modchip looks a lot harder. ...If youre going to try for a pSONE, try to get the older model, I would assume the parts are bigger and spaced farther apart, hence easier to solder. The guts of the MiniPSONE look pretty small.

[dawnshine1979]

Sorry, just realized you were using a PS2... try this?
http://www.modchip.com/ps2/v12slimkit.php

[dtfreak05]

that looks promising...does it actually work? and does it work on the original design ps2 (not the new small version)? and btw, have you ever heard the iron maiden song based on that poem?

[chimaira cris]

yes, if you find a dodgy computer shop or electronic shop,(every town/city has 1) and ask them if they do em

[dawnshine1979]

no, i actually didntknow there was a Maiden song.. what was it called?

[dtfreak05]

Rime of the Ancient Mariner :) it's from their Powerslave album, it's generally considered to be the best of all the epic songs that they did. its really great, if you're a fan (of maiden) you should check it out. or i could email it to you.

[pizzaman]

I heard that you can have a mod chip for the PS2, but the PS2 will break after a while, is that true?
And whats a .iso file? Is it like a copy of a CD or DVD?
And if you burn an image to a CD/DVD what does that mean?
I'm sorry if i asked too much:o

[Remorse]

I heard that you can have a mod chip for the PS2, but the PS2 will break after a while, is that true?

Let me clarify this for you: both the PS1 and the PS2 will have their lifespam shortened if you use pirated games. This is even worse with the PS2.

And whats a .iso file? Is it like a copy of a CD or DVD?
And if you burn an image to a CD/DVD what does that mean?
I'm sorry if i asked too much:o

Yeah, iso images are EXACT copies of the CD. And burning an image to a CD means that you'll have the contents of the image on a CD!!!

[pizzaman]

So, if I have a ISO of a CD I don't need a mod chip?

[admin]

You cannot play burned games without a modchip because the real cd's are different than a regular cd.

[pizzaman]

You cannot play burned games without a modchip because the real cd's are different than a regular cd.
Do you know how much they cost and if I can get them at a local store instead of the net?

[dtfreak05]

i was told that you do need a mod chip, and it seems to be the case since i tried playing a burnt cd with an ISO and it didnt work. which is rather unfortunate, because i have absolutely no knowledge in that area, nor do i have any experience with soldering :( oh well, at least i can play them on my laptop (which has a far better screen than any of my tvs anyway lol),

[dtfreak05]

you could probably get them from a store if you find one that is, shall we say, less than reputable. i dont think you can get that stuff at any regular store, ie radio shack.

EDIT: Actually, i was reading the wikipedia article on disc images and i read that extracting images as RAW data makes games unreadable on the psx because there are no error correction codes copied. so if i imported an image as user data, would that make it readable?

[DarthBrady]

You still need a mod chip to play a backup disc from an ISO. an iso is a physical image of the data on the disc like a "snapshot"

Think of them like this:

Remember how spies like james bond use to take pictures documents with a spy camera? he had the document, but it wasnt the Actual peice of paper, just picture of the peice of paper. But James bond can tell the diffence between the actual piece of paper and the picture of the piece of paper.

An iso is the same way, your console can tell the difference between an actual disc, an the image of a disc., but they both contain the same data. but a modchip doesnt care, it takes the data either way.

and contrary to belief, installed correctly, a modchip wont hurt your ps2, its FCC law. However, a Burned disc whether it CD-R,DVD-R whatever, WILL Damage the Laser/Lens in a PS2/or an xbox. thats why most modchip owners just store their backup on a hard drive.not to mention the faster load time.

[dtfreak05]

i stored a psx image file on my modded xbox, but when i ran it the framerate was less than desireable, and skippy. is that more likely the emulator, the image, or the xbox not being powerful enough to effectively emulate the playstation? my n64 roms run on it with only a few hitches

[DarthBrady]

I ve never tried to run PSX on Xbox, But I would guess its the Emulator, or perhaps its setup if it has a good one. The Xbox itself has more than enough muscle to run a PSX Game, there have Some great ported PSX titles to xbox, like greastest hits collections and stuff. And They work great, but like i said they are ported by the game creators too.

[DarthBrady]

Ohh, and sorry for double posting but one more thing.

Saying the lifespan of a PS2 is shortened by playing backup games is NOT TRUE; if you are playing them off of a hard drive. And you dont even need a modchip for that, if you use a USB IDE Hard Disk. But playing burned backups on your PS2 DVD Drive WILL shorten the life of it.

[dtfreak05]

why do burned discs affect a ps2's or xbox's laser disc? and is that also true for pcs and regular dvd players? because if they messed up regular players, that would cause problems for a lot of people! and what was that about a usb hard disk...you can use an external usb hdd for the ps2?!