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Doregushin
01-12-2009, 06:22 PM
Seriously, I heard that if you go at an extremely fast speed, time accelerates, in the center of a black hole, time has stopped, and if you rotate any mass at just the right amount, time will loop around it and start to reverse. Slightly off topic, Einstein says that time is faster in an elevator then at ground level.

Is this the truth? Is time a manipulative object?

tatsuya1221
01-12-2009, 07:36 PM
Depends on your theory and if your a creationist or not.

Fantasy_Freak
01-12-2009, 10:32 PM
Dude...

I think you just summarized the next Sonic the Hedgehog game.

..But if we ever get something that can go that fast I wonder if we would attempt to alter history or leave it be? If we alter history could we prevent things that we should've prevented or would we end up making things more worse than they already are.

Viney
01-12-2009, 10:40 PM
i think you copied and pasted that from wikipeidia, but good topic! im not a scientist and i didnt really pay attention in physics so errr.... . . . . . . . .

tatsuya1221
01-12-2009, 10:42 PM
Dude...

I think you just summarized the next Sonic the Hedgehog game.

..But if we ever get something that can go that fast I wonder if we would attempt to alter history or leave it be? If we alter history could we prevent things that we should've prevented or would we end up making things more worse than they already are.

You haven't played sonic cd i see XD.

Darth Gazak
01-14-2009, 08:58 AM
I think we have had this discussion before. TBH it never ends in a universally accepted conclusion. It's very difficult to explain time physics, as you can go into complex detail taking into account advanced theories and proofs, or you can explain in layman's terms using analogies. Einstein spent a large portion of his life trying to explain and research it, and it's still a debated topic.

Here's (http://www.coolrom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6636) the other thread. Read the entire thread if you're an insomniac.

Doregushin
01-14-2009, 01:32 PM
i think you copied and pasted that from wikipeidia, but good topic! im not a scientist and i didnt really pay attention in physics so errr.... . . . . . . . .

I don't use Wikipedia, for the reason that it is publicly editable.

Fantasy_Freak
01-16-2009, 11:52 PM
You haven't played sonic cd i see XD.

I have the sega CD version, and PC version

One of my top 3 console games is ever.

tatsuya1221
01-17-2009, 08:46 AM
I have the sega CD version, and PC version

One of my top 3 console games is ever.

Wdll time travel was it's main theme heh, that's why i misunderstood you.

Agent Smith
02-05-2009, 05:30 AM
Seriously, I heard that if you go at an extremely fast speed, time accelerates, in the center of a black hole, time has stopped, and if you rotate any mass at just the right amount, time will loop around it and start to reverse. Slightly off topic, Einstein says that time is faster in an elevator then at ground level.

Now I have been thinking about this alot as of latey time as we know is just a concept. We refur to this as past, persent, and last but not least future. Past time we think in terms of memory, persent we live in, and as for the future we make for ourselves sometimes not knowing where we are going and what affect it well have on us. As for time being manipulative we as humans do not have this power nor I do not think we ever will.

Is this the truth? Is time a manipulative object?

Dude...

I think you just summarized the next Sonic the Hedgehog game.

..But if we ever get something that can go that fast I wonder if we would attempt to alter history or leave it be? If we alter history could we prevent things that we should've prevented or would we end up making things more worse than they already are.

Good concept and that depends on who you ask if you tried to alter history you whould not return to your earth from were you left but an altered earth unlike our own. While this earth would go on so would thee alter earth. A sort of multversre.

Ss4gogeta0
03-10-2009, 01:29 PM
Good concept and that depends on who you ask if you tried to alter history you whould not return to your earth from were you left but an altered earth unlike our own. While this earth would go on so would thee alter earth. A sort of multversre.

ahhh yes thy multi verse...

anyway yea it is possible but highly unlikely anyone would be able to do it in our life time especially urs

Agent Smith
03-11-2009, 06:38 AM
ahhh yes thy multi verse...

anyway yea it is possible but highly unlikely anyone would be able to do it in our life time especially urs

But you also cannot forget that time is just a concept humans give meanning to. The past we see as menory the persent we live in and the furture well we shape and make for ourselves.

Gamester
03-11-2009, 11:20 AM
Time travel is very possible. In fact, there have already been time travelers to a certain degree. Astronauts that spend a long enough time in space orbiting the earth move at such a high speed that they actually advance into the future a few fractions of a second. Satellites experience this also which is why over time their clocks have to be adjusted slightly to keep to our correct time.

All we need to be able to time travel is some kind of a medium to do so. Something with the properties of a black hole, but domesticated for human use. Some kind of a device that can ether move through space and time fast enough, or move space and time around the device.

I think that feasible time travel will eventually be possible. Maybe not in our time, but eventually. Can't hurt to dream ;)

My 2 cents :D

tatsuya1221
03-11-2009, 03:35 PM
Time travel is very possible. In fact, there have already been time travelers to a certain degree. Astronauts that spend a long enough time in space orbiting the earth move at such a high speed that they actually advance into the future a few fractions of a second. Satellites experience this also which is why over time their clocks have to be adjusted slightly to keep to our correct time.

All we need to be able to time travel is some kind of a medium to do so. Something with the properties of a black hole, but domesticated for human use. Some kind of a device that can ether move through space and time fast enough, or move space and time around the device.

I think that feasible time travel will eventually be possible. Maybe not in our time, but eventually. Can't hurt to dream ;)

My 2 cents :D

The main problem with the theory here is that time is relative to the experiencer, what this means is you can never accurately measure time since it's subjective to the person.

Time is probably something made up in a way by people to determine how long they live, as such it's not really a point.

teurmug
03-14-2009, 10:29 AM
As far as i know time is a dimension so it is measurable. even a kilometer is relative to who walk it but it still is a kilometer :P or did i get it wrong?
anyway is more like that time travel is not doable, though possible.
time is influenced by gravity so yes in theory if you can produce a high enough energy, going at the speed of light (making your mass infinite) and using a big enough mass, like one of the biggest blackholes, you would go through a noticeable time/space jump. this is only a theory, and it would even go against some old physical laws.
what is interesting, at least for me, is that if in a future we could do it then why we don't get any time travel visitor? the idea of we do but they can't tell us isn't good enough for me. and if time travel is possible how would reality react to some paradox? like if i kill my grandgrandfather i would never exist but if i never existed then how can i go back in time and kill him?
and if i go back and kill hitler before ww2 how would i decide to do it if ww2 never existed?
sorry if i make not much sense, english is not my language and anyway i rarelly make sense :D

Grethum
03-20-2009, 12:14 PM
How could we go back in time to stop something that has already happened? I cant see us going anywhere in time, how can we go to the future when it has not happened yet? By going to the future we would ultimately change the future for ourselves which might turn to be a very bad thing. I would have to say a more realistic version of this would be to transport us from one area to another at very high speeds. By taking us through time every atom in our body would have to be deconstructed and reconstructed exactly like it was before... This means that the bonds that hold our DNA and all other items would be broken, now if this happened whats to stop everything from scattering in different directions? If it was possible we cant even begin to imagine how it would be done, way to many problems to work out!